Hi there
This is probably super basic stuff that i never understood, is there some kind of formula to do this?
Ive noticed that the chorus often is in some higher key than the verses.
However, thats all i know:)
Thanks!
Classic key modulations to seperate chorus/bridg from verses
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- KVRian
- 505 posts since 21 May, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
Modulationfrom the mighty dolmetsch.com
The circle of fifths is your friend in working out how close or far a modulation is. The other great aid is Schoenberg's Chart of the regions.
The circle of fifths is your friend in working out how close or far a modulation is. The other great aid is Schoenberg's Chart of the regions.
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- KVRian
- 1227 posts since 10 Oct, 2004
See my Introduction to Modulation. That should help you understand the basics.bjarnenorheim wrote:Hi there
This is probably super basic stuff that i never understood, is there some kind of formula to do this?
Ive noticed that the chorus often is in some higher key than the verses.
However, thats all i know:)
Thanks!
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- KVRAF
- 1975 posts since 4 Feb, 2005
There are lots of cool ways to modulate, many of which are not covered in the basics thread.
The basics thread discusses Pivot Chord (or "common Chord") modulation; the modulation occurs on a chord shared by two keys.
There are other cool kinds as well;
In major, in particular, the altered 7th modulation (I just made this name up, I'm not familiar with any other name for it) is a fun one; For any major chord (usually I or IV), add a minor 7th; this will establish it as a dominant chord. It works surprisingly well; try playing Cmaj, Fmaj, Gdom7, Cdom7, FMaj.
If you're in the (harmonic) minor, on the other hand, a cool trick for modulation is the diminished7-dominant7 modulation (again, I just made that name up as I'm not familiar with any proper name for it)
For this trick, play a diminished 7th chord; typically, this will be on the viio (AKA #viio). This chord has the unique property that lowering any one of it's pitches by a half-step will result in a Dominant 7th chord, which then resolves nicely to its corresponding 1. So in Aminor, that's G#BDF... lowering G gives us the G7 (resolves to C or Cm), lowering the B gives us Bb7* (resolves to E or Em), etc.
*In order for this to make sense, you have to treat the tones enharmonically. In this case, the G# becomes Ab.
The basics thread discusses Pivot Chord (or "common Chord") modulation; the modulation occurs on a chord shared by two keys.
There are other cool kinds as well;
In major, in particular, the altered 7th modulation (I just made this name up, I'm not familiar with any other name for it) is a fun one; For any major chord (usually I or IV), add a minor 7th; this will establish it as a dominant chord. It works surprisingly well; try playing Cmaj, Fmaj, Gdom7, Cdom7, FMaj.
If you're in the (harmonic) minor, on the other hand, a cool trick for modulation is the diminished7-dominant7 modulation (again, I just made that name up as I'm not familiar with any proper name for it)
For this trick, play a diminished 7th chord; typically, this will be on the viio (AKA #viio). This chord has the unique property that lowering any one of it's pitches by a half-step will result in a Dominant 7th chord, which then resolves nicely to its corresponding 1. So in Aminor, that's G#BDF... lowering G gives us the G7 (resolves to C or Cm), lowering the B gives us Bb7* (resolves to E or Em), etc.
*In order for this to make sense, you have to treat the tones enharmonically. In this case, the G# becomes Ab.
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- KVRist
- 149 posts since 27 Jan, 2007 from Eyeth
Yes, there are many different possibilities for modulation. There is also pivot tone modulation, direct modulation (without any pivot chords), sequential modulation, enharmonic modulation, and in a piece of music, the choice depends not only on what theoretically may seem most appropriate, but also on the composer's wish for sonic effect.

