Very recently I had a professor discussing jazz harmony in passing bring up the example progression Dm F7#9 CM. Firstly, it struck me that this progression is a ii-IV-I, not a ii-V-I, so seems weird. But more importantly, he used a 7#9 (which I had always assumed belonged to a class of altered dominants) in a nondominant position.
No matter HOW I try I cannot get this chord to work; in the dominant position it's ugly but it resolves, but anywhere else it just sounds like I missed a key.
I know that many of you are experienced in the world of 9th chords and alterations thereto, and I was wondering if you had any advice on altered 9th chords; ESPECIALLY altered dominant 9ths used in NONdominant positions.
Altered Nondominants...?
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- KVRist
- 62 posts since 30 Nov, 2006
Are you wondering about the fingering? or the sound? because it sounds interesting. Thats an odd progression, doesnt really fit Jazz standard harmony too well. so you're going up a minor third to the 7#9? odd....
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1975 posts since 4 Feb, 2005
Not the fingering, the function. I don't have time to waste PLAYING this crap...
I just program it all in.
I've heard tell that it's actually used as a tonic chord in blues harmony, since it's really enharmonically a dominant 7th with a major and minor 3rd (thought to approximate the blue third) but damn if I can't just get crap from it.
I've heard tell that it's actually used as a tonic chord in blues harmony, since it's really enharmonically a dominant 7th with a major and minor 3rd (thought to approximate the blue third) but damn if I can't just get crap from it.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 24 Nov, 2006
Although not a fan of the progression, I would suggest that the chromatic movement of the 5th of Dm, the #9 of F7#9 and the 5th of Cm would be the reason. This would give:
A G# and G
Just my opinion
A G# and G
Just my opinion
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- KVRist
- 149 posts since 27 Jan, 2007 from Eyeth
Although I cannot say I am experienced with jazz harmony, I have studied by several books. Here is my opinion, giving two logical resolutions. It could be analyzed as a substitute V of III and resolve to III. Even if you don't analyze it as such, the degrees' tendencies give hints for the resolution.
And it could also progress to V.
And it could also progress to V.
