Q's about Liveslice

[disturb]

I've been trying out liveslice lately, hoping it could make a beat repeat on steroids, but now i'm wondering :

Besides loading/recording the same loop several times in different slots, and using different slice numbers (when using even slices), is there another (i.e. quicker) way to use slices of different lengths ?

I had major issues with the record sync in Live and eXT, the loop basically never started on beat 1, and sometimes was even totally off ; i seem to recall reading about this being fixed in the new beta... Is this it, or did i miss something ?

Hope you guys can shed some light on this, that's one hell of a program, i'll basically won't be able NOT to bouy it once i get the sync problem sorted...

And to Ohm, if i may make a few suggestions (kinda ballsy since i'm not even a customer yet ..) :
..It'd really be cool, if the plugin's gui size (esp the width) was definable in the settings. I'd love to be able to work on 64 beats patterns, but the arrangement view gets so crowded, it's barely possible to work it above 32 beats for me.
..Also, could a 'Live' record mode be added ? It'd disable reverse, pitching up, and also timestretch i guess ; allowing you to use liveslice more like regular buffer fx, and get rid of the 1bar delay, which makes it kinda unsuitable for live use (as an fx i mean) ?
..Don't know if the plugs architecture would allow these next two, but :
.it's kinda frustrating that adding a slice in between two others nudges every slice after it in all your arrangements. Could make for some cool accidents i guess, but some way to bypass that would be great
.and also, adding a track param for adjusting the slice's start point would be killer

Cheers, and congrats to Ohm for his work (how could i overlook LS for so long ?)

[ohm]

Besides loading/recording the same loop several times in different slots, and using different slice numbers (when using even slices), is there another (i.e. quicker) way to use slices of different lengths ?

No. I tried once to implement what I called "slice sets" that were different sets of slices for different loops, but 97% of my beta testers found it very confusing so I left it out. The only downsides to not having this feature is menory consumption for loading the extra loop, and having to find the loop again if you have browsed to a different folder. Both these issues can be avoided by implementing a "clone loop" feature that creates a copy of a loop without duplicating memory, but since I implementing simple loop editing in the latest beta there would be issues with this as well (sharing memory) I could still implement a "clone loop feature" if there's a popular demand of course.

I had major issues with the record sync in Live and eXT, the loop basically never started on beat 1, and sometimes was even totally off ; i seem to recall reading about this being fixed in the new beta... Is this it, or did i miss something ?

There are bugs with the synced recording and they have all been fixed in the beta.

And to Ohm, if i may make a few suggestions (kinda ballsy since i'm not even a customer yet ..) :
..It'd really be cool, if the plugin's gui size (esp the width) was definable in the settings. I'd love to be able to work on 64 beats patterns, but the arrangement view gets so crowded, it's barely possible to work it above 32 beats for me.

How about horizontal zoom in the arranger? That's on my todo list (next major feature after rx2 import and assignable outputs for tracks).
Some kind of resizing is definately possible too, and yes I find the arranger a bit crowded too.

..Also, could a 'Live' record mode be added ? It'd disable reverse, pitching up, and also timestretch i guess ; allowing you to use liveslice more like regular buffer fx, and get rid of the 1bar delay, which makes it kinda unsuitable for live use (as an fx i mean) ?

Well spotted (I mean the skipping resize, reverse and stretch) - that would be possible - the one bar delay was introduced to avoid conflicts with these effects. Actually my playback engine can handle it allright but you get crazy glicthes when pitching up and playing back samples that doesn't exist yet!

..Don't know if the plugs architecture would allow these next two, but :
.it's kinda frustrating that adding a slice in between two others nudges every slice after it in all your arrangements. Could make for some cool accidents i guess, but some way to bypass that would be great

I've been working on ideas for this but it does involve changing the playback engine quite a bit. It's high on my personal annoyance list too though so It will be implemented at some point, but this stuff takes time.

.and also, adding a track param for adjusting the slice's start point would be killer

That's an easy one to implement. I'm planning on implementing some stutter effects too, as well as randomization or "humanization" of all parameters. Only problem is I'm running out of space for track parameters - I already thought of a solution for this though: a dynamic, customizable parameter list. You select parameters from a dropdown and they stay visible until you run out of space and the least used parameters goes away.

Cheers, and congrats to Ohm for his work (how could i overlook LS for so long ?)

Probably because my PR department sucks (probably because I can't find my PR hat). I'm a programmer and a musician not a marketing guy unfortunately - just doesn't interest me. So I guess I'm relying on recommandations and KVR publicity.

Cheers back, and welcome to the club

[DarkStar]

[ohm]

I'm guessing you like my "todo list" or are you just happy so see me writing insanely long forum posts again

[loachm]

(next major feature after rx2 import and assignable outputs for tracks)

Rex-Import

[disturb]

Thanks for the answer ohm,

Just thought of a couple other things :
a slice length multiplicator param, could be pretty useful with even slices.

mod key + right click on the number of beats in the arranger, would copy what's been done to the added portion, could be a cool timesaver to quickly get a skeleton for longer arrangements.

and that's probably a stretch (uhhh), but maybe you could think of an advanced even slicing mode ; combining an even number of slices, that would slightly shift, automatically adjusting to the groove, according to the transient detection ?
Just thought of this when loading different loops over the same arrangement. Sometimes for example, the start of a hit ends up at the end of the previous slice if the groove was pulling.


Anyway, need to go get some money...

cheers

[soma]

Good stuff!

[DarkStar]

I'm guessing you like my "todo list" or are you just happy so see me writing insanely long forum posts again

both of the above !

[especially if you're working your way through 'my' lists]

[wrench45us]

glad to see LiveSlice is getting a little more exposure with ethe Aphex Twin even with a minimal PR department
I push this whenever and wherever I can as a perfect complement to host like Project 5 that do midi editing well, but are weak on the audio side. LiveSlice goes so much further than anything I could expect from a host developer to include in their 'package'.
Like a lot of good software, it really rewards exploration and doesn't set 'early' bounds. I've been coming at it slowly, but with my 3rd project now and I'm really getting into this in a big way and the workflow is really coming together. Very well-designed package -- and more features coming. Give me some time to catch up.