My samples are too short. What would a real pro do?

[kyrre]

Hey!

Been trying to sample something here but the samples are too short.

What can I do? Adding delay or reverb just doesn't sound right.

Check it here.

Thanks,
Kyrre

[Dayl]

Time Stretch...carefully.

I use Sound Forge 7.
But too much stretch will ruin the sound.

[mistertoast]

Call for a fluffer.

[muzycian]

What about an alternating loop?

So from start to end, then back from end to start, and so on.

Carefully set the loop points, note that for alternate looping it's better NOT to use zero crossings, but rather the top of a (symmetric) peak. Finding good loop points is always a matter of feel and patience

And of course you could eventually apply loop crossfading!

[kyrre]

Time Stretch...carefully.

I use Sound Forge 7.
But too much stretch will ruin the sound.

But I'd rather keep the sound as it is and work on its end part.

I take it even if I stretch it just a little bit, the sound will sound all chopped up

[rhythmsickness]

chop and duplicate the tails. re-sample. change the meter. put rolls into it. Use it as a leftfield editing technique.

[kyrre]

chop and duplicate the tails. re-sample. change the meter. put rolls into it. Use it as a leftfield editing technique.

wah, for real? duplicating the tails actually work?

re-sample, change the meter, put rolls into it... as well as the leftfield editing technique,
could you please explain how to achieve those things?

many thanks in advance.

[rhythmsickness]

take the last say few milliseconds of the parts, and chop and duplicate. You're only after all trying to fill really small spaces.
You'll probably need to process it a little YMMV

resample - resample material from your source.
Change the meter of the part your writing - make it faster so the samples fit into the space.
Put rolls into it - edit the drum sounds to create drum rolls that build up to the start of the nest sample
leftfield editing technique - just leave the gaps in it, I thought it sounded quite nice

[kyrre]

the original is here

[Dayl]

take the last say few milliseconds of the parts, and chop and duplicate. You're only after all trying to fill really small spaces.
You'll probably need to process it a little YMMV

resample - resample material from your source.
Change the meter of the part your writing - make it faster so the samples fit into the space.
Put rolls into it - edit the drum sounds to create drum rolls that build up to the start of the nest sample
leftfield editing technique - just leave the gaps in it, I thought it sounded quite nice

Damn, what a technique.
I'll have to give that a try.

[rhythmsickness]

yeah I like the edits myself, but you know what you want after all

[kyrre]

i tried some duplication, but it sounded all messed up. here's the sample i used if you wanna have a go at it if your method really works. but judging from the way the waves look (i.e. all random until it reaches the part where i duplicated where the repetition of a tiny wave sample forms a pattern).

isn't there some vst that let's me recreate sounds from a given sample or something like that?

[droneofkc]

take the original part and stretch it to like 130-140 % length with a good algorhythm. Then cut the resulting audiofile and map it on your keyboard to be able to "replay" the sample tightened in your sequencer (whatever you use). The original is a 6/8th as well so things always tend to get a little messy when you move stuff into another structure....

just my 2 cents....

[rhythmsickness]

I listened to the second clip, that you're sampling from, why not take longer parts from that. If the parts that you're sampling to fit with the start of your beats are too short, they're going to be too short all the way through the song aren't they?
So like aren't you going to be running into this problem all the way through your track?
If this is the case, I'd really suggest changing the meter of your song.

[Dayl]

Damn, Im at work at the moment and can't listen to this.

Sorry