Music In its deepest roots

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I have been studying and analyzing poetry lately, and have been finding it more and more beautiful lately. I love art, in all its forms, especially painting and colours, basically anything that creates a story. Now that i think of it in a literal sense, music is much like poetry and painting. Now because sound is all around us, its no wonder music developed into such a deep and intricate artform. Sound is a natural thing that we feel, and for us, to be able to create stories with sound, is a very special thing indeed.

Have you ever considered the first humans in there tribal settings, developing basic rythyms and melodies that would tell stories? Im sure to many younger musicians such as myself, we take music for granted and grab what we can, because we know we want it, but cant say yet why. Especially with all these great tools, nowadays :o

I have been listening to music all my life, but never in a deep analytical fashion, especially where im asking myself "why is it that we use a type of sound in the same sense that we use a set of rich vibrant words in a poem"

Its probaly because sounds, really speak for them self and if its played with human emotion then it creates that stirring effect that we want. Ever wonder why your beautiful synthetic composition with no singing never got famous? Maybe it has to do with that deeper level of communication on how it was created and how it needed that extra touch to make others relate to.

Anyhow, im rambling on that i have just found that each sound has its own story. It has its own story on how it was created and why it was created to sound like it is. not all music needs musical sounds! this is very much true! look at pink floyds stuff for example, they used alot of effects and synths to create ravishing soundscapes that would put you right In there story.

My point is that All humans love stories, because we can relate to them, and many have lessons in them we can learn from. Some music out now sounds great, but the story driving it is so basic. Its as if music is slowly being overrun by catchy modern beats with no feeling.

I hope i made some sense, im not working on very much sleep lately thanks to some awesome freeware vstis lol

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Xaviero wrote:I hope i made some sense, im not working on very much sleep lately thanks to some awesome freeware vstis lol
haha i feel you. Poetry is tight, i can't write harder verses and forms.

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colours and shapes can make sense in a stream of consciousness way without making a leftbrain story
I think to insist on music as story is too social and too limited.
interpretation of music seems to be interpretation of life. Is there nothing beyond us, or do our concepts limit everything
instrumental music can make sense beyond expectation
instrumental dance music has so much potential I think eventually it will show how limited pop songs were (going round in the same old circles)

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Xaviero wrote:
we want music but we can't yet say why

does make you wonder

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the temptress stirs

one thick pulse

and then forever released

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igloo300 wrote: instrumental dance music has so much potential I think eventually it will show how limited pop songs were (going round in the same old circles)
Right on, man! :tu:

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FWIW, I have long held that, as an art form, music is far more like food than it is like painting, poetry, or anything else.
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Xaviero wrote: Have you ever considered the first humans in there tribal settings, developing basic rythyms and melodies that would tell stories? Im sure to many younger musicians such as myself, we take music for granted and grab what we can, because we know we want it, but cant say yet why.
Ehh, homo sapiens have always been kinda lazy regarding all of this IMO. The early humans had a lot of music around them in nature, some of it, bird songs for example, rather interesting and complex. Yet, the music the first humans produced was probably very simple in comparison. I think the history of music in our civilization suggests that we use those elements in music that seem useful to us and see in them spiritual dimensions that have always been there but for some reason don't seem to satisfy the needs of humans in every period.

Bottom line: we're all lazy and have always tended to take things for granted but luckily music is greater than any and all of us, and provides us seemingly endless possibilities for those instances when we get around to availing ourselves of its wonderful, creative elements. 8)

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why do we still want to hear and create music when the source is all around us, it would be lazier to cut out the middleman and just enjoy the source. :D
I don't hear satisfying rhythms in nature. :-o
Maybe the spiritual dimension of music is our fascination with our neural processing of the source.
Lazy makes good riffs. 8)

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