5 inch / 5 + woofer / 8 inch monitors

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for a small room, being always in total mess, no basss traps mounted (I don't know what it is).

mainly I want to prepare loops on my MC-808 Groovebox to sound good onstage: kik n bass, compression, such things.

I want active speakers.
I can think of 3 soultions:

5 inch speakers
5 inch + woofer (in future; the most expensive solution)
8 inch

Quality:
something around KRK Rokit Series, or Event TR, if these names teel you anything.

I am not asking for suggestions on what model to buy. Please, just tell me, is any of the options better than others in aforementioned conditions?

Won't a woofer be overkill for a small room?


Thanks

Tomek

[where02190]

Spending any money on monitors for an untuned room is throwing money away. Acoustically tune the room, then shop for monitors. There is tons of info on DIY traps, diffusers, and low cost methods of tuning your room.

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Hi where02190

It's the first time I hear this to be stated so strongly. I will take it into consideration then.

What about my innitial question?

[Kingston]

those inches mean absolutely nothing in terms of monitoring and sound. sounds like you've read one too many gangsta car tuning mags.

for unstable room conditions and changing environments, look at the smaller sized genelec active range. They can be easily upgraded with a subwoofer later on when/if you need the very low bass, and they'll be able to support even a decent sized near field studio situations very well.

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Hi where02190

It's the first time I hear this to be stated so strongly. I will take it into consideration then.

What about my innitial question?

It's not as simple as woofer size. The bass response of a speaker system is governed by the (so called) Thiel-Small parameters of the drive unit, the size and configuration (IB, reflex, etc) of the enclosure and any equalisation the designer has chosen to apply.
While, in general, a larger drive unit in a larger enclosure will pump out more deep bass it's by no means a given.

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So until I properly set up the room and get another as much money (or more, for a woofer) a small SUCH AS genelec 8020a or similar would be okay, because they are more trustworthy than many bigger lower quality peers.

Is this correct?


pair of 80820a 520euro
woofer 760euro
1300

At this price level, there are quite a few options, aren't they.

Would you maintain that the said configuration may be optimal?

[where02190]

If you must mix in an untuned envorinment, you want to work with monitors that do NOT have extended low end response. In an untuned room, low end inacuracy will smear the mid and hi frequency response, making it impossible to create a mix that will translate to the real world even close to what you innacurately hear in the control room.

Personally I've never been impressed with Genelec, I find them very flattering, and when comparing mixing on other monitors when mixing (highly recommended procedure) the flaws in the mixes become immediately obvious. Now this doesn't mean they won't work for you, as CR monitors are a very personal thing.

Again I recommend you take the time to educate yourself and tune your room, then find a pro audio dealer (read not guitar center) and develop a relationship that allows you to audition monitors (preferably 2 prs at a time for comparison) IN YOUR CONTROL ROOM, until you find a pair or pairs that are right for you.

Also, I recommend you stay away from a separate sub until you have become extremely comfortable and successful in mixing on a pair of full range monitors, and have done extensive tuning to your room.

For starter monitors, I would recommend a pair of KRK Rockit 5's, they have excellent frequency response for a small monitor, and are not a massive investment. IMHO an excellent starter monitor.

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I am considering rp5 and rubicons.

But I am also tempted to buy Adam A7s.

The only worry is that I may not get much more for double price, because I am NOT going to tune the room. Not within 3 years.