KVR Audio

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Wed May 16, 2007 7:42 pm

http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detail.html?1352

Any thoughts?

sirocco · Post by **sirocco** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:08 pm

...so what exactly did best service "make" in this product?

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:29 pm

Whaddyamean?

Left Headphone · Post by **Left Headphone** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:47 pm

sirocco wrote:...so what exactly did best service "make" in this product?

Some drums...

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Wed May 16, 2007 9:38 pm

Nobody tried it yet? Looks like a lot of drums. But how about quality?

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Fri May 18, 2007 11:22 pm

Anybody know if it has multi velocity acoustic drums?

dmichaelsmusic · Post by **dmichaelsmusic** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:09 am

some but mainly no. It's primarily got a lot of drums more geared towards electronic styles. If you want really good acoustic drums then check out Addictive Drums. I have a feeling this is more what your looking for.

http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detail.html?1383

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:36 am

How do you know Drums overkill has got multi velocity drums, have you tried it?

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Mon May 21, 2007 7:23 pm

Still nobody tried it? ...

vespers75 · Post by **vespers75** » Wed May 23, 2007 7:57 pm

Most people here on KVR aren't going to mess with Drums Overkill....most of us have the skills to alter drum sounds as we need them, and there are alot of good quality sample sets that are much cheaper that we can use as the basis for any sound we may need. Anyone who is willing to pay $300 for some drum samples probably has more money than brains or musical skills.

KKeene · Post by **KKeene** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:50 pm

From what I breifly heard, the beats sound like they're chopped from records and old drumboxes. Nothing much original and I doubt very much if any of them are multi-velocity, but if you wade through the 1000s of sounds, I'm sure some of them are cool.

Like the previous post said, I'd save my money for more skilled sound designers like SonicCouture, Vengeance Sound, Idrum's XRB, Synthetic Drums, etc., for processed drum sounds. And I'd recommend Battery 3 for a huge selection of good acoustic and processed drums.

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:56 pm

Thanks for your input. Well, guilty as charged, I'm a total novice when it comes to programming drums, but I make no apology for considering paying 240 euro for a library that may get me started nicely, within a software (Kontakt 2) I already own.

As far as I can see, the Drums overkill K2 version user interface seems very convenient. For example, to be able to change effects directly, without having to use the very cumbersome K2-mixer GUI, would be nice. (I wish Sonic Couture would do the same for their Konkrete drums.)

Spectrasonic's Stylus RMX costs exactly the same, has no multi velocity drums either and is stuffed with tons of different drum sounds. Still, I figure it's a bestseller, even among KvR-people. No wonder. People seem to like ease of use.

But quality (and originality) of sound is something else, and, also, the reason I'm asking. But nobody here seems to have tried the drum library in question, so it's hard to know if it's good or not, really.

symphonysuite · Post by **symphonysuite** » Thu May 24, 2007 11:49 pm

I don't know but it seems like with 27,000 drum hits your bound to find a bunch of stuff you could use. Seems like a bargin to me. I just don't currently need any new drum hits so I couldn't tell you first hand

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Fri May 25, 2007 5:41 am

I think CM Mag gave it an ok review, nothing special but as was said, with that many samples you're bound to find something. Not sure about the multisamples though.

The thing with drum hits is this: If you're going for realistic drum-kit playing stuff, it's really much better these days to get something like Addictive Drums or EZ Drummer, than to try to program that stuff by hand. Especially for someone who professes to be a novice!

But if you're going for unique/custom/experimental sounds using one-shots (possibly layered and whatnot) with all kinds of creative processing, then in reality the amount of drums you actually *need* is very small imho. It's all in the sound design.

Give me a solid snare crack, and I can build almost an entire kit out of it, easy. And I ain't all that, trust me! lol

The big unanswered question is what exactly are you hoping to accomplish with your drums? then you can explore the best way to go about achieving it.

Also, you can amass a huge library of drum samples virtually for free between internet sample sights and computer magazine dvd's. No need to spend hundreds of dollars if all you want are one-shots...

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Fri May 25, 2007 5:48 am

Check this out, way cheaper than Overkill but doesn't have the convenience of being in Kontakt format:

Drum Fundamentals
http://www.samplelab.com/slweb/df_info.jsp

Click on the "Free 24-bit downloads" for a bunch of free hits. I use them all the time, they're good!

This is also a good collection, in Kontakt form and much cheaper:

Drumatic Percussives
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detail.html?1242

Drums overkill - anyone tried it?