KVR Audio

pdadda · Post by **pdadda** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:28 pm

I prefer using a hardware sequencer for live use. I have been messing around at home with a yamaha QX21. Whie I think it's fine for home use, it is not the best for live use in my opinion. So I am looking at three options for hardware right now.

1. I can get a used yamaha rm1x for around $200-$250
2. I can get a used Alesis MMT-8 for around $75
3. I can buy a new electribe es1 mkii for $279

Ideally, I would prefer one with good drum sounds for electronica production. But a sequencer that is good for live creation and looping (with no pauses) is the most important. I don't want to spend more than around $250. Any suggestions/reccomendations? Thanks.

Chuck E. Jesus · Post by **Chuck E. Jesus** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:34 pm

i've heard the old Kawai hardware units were pretty good (midi only), i've seen them around 50 bucks, i think they have a card reader as well...

dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:47 pm

pdadda wrote:I prefer using a hardware sequencer for live use. I have been messing around at home with a yamaha QX21. Whie I think it's fine for home use, it is not the best for live use in my opinion. So I am looking at three options for hardware right now.

1. I can get a used yamaha rm1x for around $200-$250
2. I can get a used Alesis MMT-8 for around $75
3. I can buy a new electribe es1 mkii for $279

Ideally, I would prefer one with good drum sounds for electronica production. But a sequencer that is good for live creation and looping (with no pauses) is the most important. I don't want to spend more than around $250. Any suggestions/reccomendations? Thanks.

well the mmt-8 is out if you want something with both internal drum sounds and the ability to loop and record on the fly.

although a good sequencer, the kawai q-80 probably wouldn't work for what you want either.

try the rm1x or even better try the rs7000 if you can save more money than $250.

kara · Post by **kara** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:09 pm

You could allso have a look at :
The Yamaha QY700
http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/_inc/sp ... ynthid=785

ew · Post by ew » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:47 pm

Chuck E. Jesus wrote:i've heard the old Kawai hardware units were pretty good (midi only), i've seen them around 50 bucks, i think they have a card reader as well...

No card; they worked on floppies. The Q80s were nice sequencers, though.
Others along the same idea wewe the higher end QXs from Yamaha; I had a QX5FD that was a great sequencer.

For ones with built in drums, the RS7000's probably your best option. Either that or an older workstation style synth.

ew

Chuck E. Jesus · Post by **Chuck E. Jesus** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:54 pm

ew wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:i've heard the old Kawai hardware units were pretty good (midi only), i've seen them around 50 bucks, i think they have a card reader as well...
No card; they worked on floppies. The Q80s were nice sequencers, though.
Others along the same idea wewe the higher end QXs from Yamaha; I had a QX5FD that was a great sequencer.

For ones with built in drums, the RS7000's probably your best option. Either that or an older workstation style synth.

ew

i didn't know if it was floppy or smartmedia, it was awhile since i saw one...i remember a guy on analogue heaven used to rave about them...i have the mmt-8, and it's ok, but the buttons get flakey, and i understand the kawai has more features (along with a floppy drive

)

iain010100 · Post by **iain010100** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:07 pm

I'm interested in a hardware sequencer as well. Does the Electribe ES1 function as sequencer? It's not clear from the things I've read about it.

pdadda · Post by **pdadda** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:22 am

How well do those electribes hold up over time? I am always a bit leary with those little pads.

Meloday · Post by **Meloday** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:30 am

iain010100 wrote:I'm interested in a hardware sequencer as well. Does the Electribe ES1 function as sequencer? It's not clear from the things I've read about it.

looking for a sequencer for v-synth, huh? you bastard!

i want a v-synth and this:

http://www.genoqs.net/15010/index.html

get out your wallet though

Meloday · Post by **Meloday** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:46 am

http://www.genoqs.net/PartI.wmv

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:47 am

I'm on a similar search, I really really would like velocity sensitive pads though which many of the smaller units battery powered don't seem to offer?

Any suggestions?

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:35 pm

spuddle wrote:I'm on a similar search, I really really would like velocity sensitive pads though which many of the smaller units battery powered don't seem to offer?

Any suggestions?

MPC500?

Midinovela · Post by **Midinovela** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:22 pm

I would go for the Yamaha,
the ES is a Beatbox, no notelength, no velocities (except accent) no Midi CC

Midinovela · Post by **Midinovela** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:24 pm

I just bought an MC 307 as Harware secuencer, and it is great for me...
I had an EMU MP7 once, and it's an amazing secuenzer (bit the sounds aren't very good), lots of free assignable knobs 2 Midi Outs, it even takes NRPN

deSelby · Post by **deSelby** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:40 am

I have an e-mu XL-7 and it has a very good and flexible sequencer - performs all you require, including punch-in and out record, no interruption of the creative flow.

You could pick one of these babies up real cheap on e-bay. The internal sounds are depending on the model, but additional sounds can be installed.
Indeed, the biggest problem with e-mu is that the roms are very scarce - but they can be obtained.

However, even without additional roms, you still have access to a great selection of presets and the comprising samples, so that, if you are prepared to tweak (and this machine goes deep), you can get almost any sound you want. Within reason of course.

I love the e-mu sound (the filters

).

help me choose a sequencer