getting the timming of an old soul sample to fit a 4/4beat ?

[leighbeynon]

so i dug out a lovely old sample from vinyl, got it on my pc, and its so close to perfect but the timming is ever so slightly out, and i cant think how i can get this sorted,

any suggestions ?

the kicks in the original just dont sync with my new kicks
could i filter or eq them out ? but i dont want to loose much of the music,

any suggestions on how to pull out what i dont want or sync the groove better, i realise its very hard to take elements from a whole recording but there must be something i can try ?

thanks in advance leigh

[jupiter8]

Either you make the sample fit the perfect grid or you'll make the grid fit the sample.
There's plenty of ways to do both.If we knew what host you're using that'll help.

[thecontrolcentre]

You can do this very quickly and easily in Live6 using Warp Markers
... have a look at this

[stale bread]

You can do this very quickly and easily in Live6 using Warp Markers
... have a look at this

werd +1

[Distorted_Mastermind]

You can slice or stretch it to fit tempo. Sometimes when adding drums they need to be tuned with pitch so they blend with the drums on the sample.

[leighbeynon]

ok nice im working in Live 6, but tried it in compex warp mode and beat mode, still not getting the results,

its weird as the first 2-4 bars seem to sound ok then the sample sounds like its speeding up as im guessing its a live recording,

the kicks in the sample are almost on the grid, its a fiddly thing, ill have another go, see if it can get the sample nice and tight over a 16th grid first before layering in new drums

[Distorted_Mastermind]

Also any of the funk or soul songs I've heard already fit a 4/4 beat

[jupiter8]

If you're using Live it's a piece of cake. You can just move stuff around like the audio was made of rubber. It's the perfect hosts for these kinds of situations.

[thecontrolcentre]

you need to adjust the warp markers by hand ... play the clip with just the click track and you'll hear when it's right. How many bars long is the loop you're warping?

[ouroboros]

you could try filtering the attack of the loop kiks so that your kiks provide the initial pop, but that might make the loop out of sync. If you post it, they will quantize....

[Coxy]

its weird as the first 2-4 bars seem to sound ok then the sample sounds like its speeding up as im guessing its a live recording,

So it's quite a long sample then? if so is splitting an option?

Obviously the longer the sample the more tempo change nuances can show the further you get into the sample.

Try splitting it into shorter sections if you can then retrigger each section sequentially say every bar, then you should have no problems.

[thecontrolcentre]

Try splitting it into shorter sections if you can then retrigger each section sequentially say every bar, then you should have no problems.

There's really no need to do this in Live ... it's easier to set the loop locaters to one bar, and adjust the warp markers a bar at a time. I do this with whole tracks when i make a mashup. Once you've got the first 8 bars or so sorted by hand you can click "warp from here" and Live will do it for you. Sometimes the odd hit will still be out, but it's easy to fix.

[leighbeynon]

ok ive zoomed right in now and manually got the warp markers tight against the samples kick, i think if im clever with my programed beats should work ok,

i will work per bar or per 2 bar as im sure the tempo is not constant.

its sounding better the more time i spend on it, so fingers crossed !!

many thanks leigh

[AKJ]

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[thecontrolcentre]

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