ReTank: Download, Installation and Authorisation

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Let's use this thread for info about downloading, installing and authorising the products that you got from the ReTank GB.

I will update this first post as needed.
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Accessing the ReTank loops in ST2L
Can someone please tell me how I can access my ReTank loops? I can't find them or let alone know how to use them!

Can anyone point me in the direction? Do I need a Retank loop station? I've downloaded and installed the three zip files, Are they in Sampletank? Where?
[Squids]
ReTank loops are in your esoundz member's area. If they are not there then check with allen (at) esoundz (dot) com for support help. In fact he is your point of contact for ALL support help before talking to IK because he is aware of all GB aspects and IK isn't (they just handle their products and aren't following the details of what we're doing as a dealer bundling their MIC promo with our ReTank loops).

The ReTank loops are sounds in SampleTank format and you need SampleTank 2.5 L to play them. Once you get your SampleTank 2.5 L serial from esoundz (Also in your member's area) you take that and go to www.ikmultimedia.com and follow the instructions Allen sent everyone via email.

You download and authorize your SampleTank 2.5 L software and then you drag all of your ReTank loop folders (after they are unzipped) into the "ST2.5 Instruments" folder (where the sounds of ST2.5 L are basically - or you can opt to "point" SampleTank directly to wherever you have your ReTank loops if you prefer... please read the SampleTank manual on how to do those things or just ask and there are plenty of people in the SR forum that would help you).

Then the ReTank loops can be loaded within SampleTank and away you go! Have fun! To use the midi files that correspond to each loop you would load the loop and then go into the ReTank folders that have the sounds and the midi file, .mid file, is right next to the sound files (sound files are .sti, .sth and .stw). So you bring that .mid file into your sequencer and set it to the same channel as the loop and it will play it! Manipulate from there!!!!! At the beginning of the loop name there is the intended original tempo but of course you have the flexibility to try any tempo you want. Quantize it, replay the slices, change the feel, tweak each slice with zone editing as I described... it's pretty powerful once you get into it! Or you can simply play thousands of loops as is. Either way, it can be inspiring and quick to create music with. Good luck!

[DarkStar]
The ReTank loops are in the three zip files that you downloaded from eSoundz. :)

The "ReTank loop station" is SampleTank 2L. You can follow the steps I described below to get ST2L and your additional products from IKMM.

When you have installed ST2L and its Sounds Library, and authorised ST2L, move the ReTank loops into a folder in your ST2L Sounds Library, open ST2L, click [Relist] on the right-hand side to show the Retank loops inside ST2L.


Using the ReTank Loops
wichi850262 wrote:I thought it would be easier to get tracks down with ReTank, I must admit.The loops are around 5 seconds long (the ones I've tried already), but is there a way of making the loop repeat itself, so that I don't have to copy and paste it each time and connect it manually? Any other tips you can give a beginner?

Is there a tutorial video on this (apart from the IK's site, because I've seen that)? I need spoon feeding!!
[Reverend Rhythm]
Let me try a step by step. Try it. Once you see how to do it, it'll seem easy.
1. Open SampleTank in your Host. In your host, set the tempo you want to use.

2. Within SampleTank, find the loop you want to use. Use the B1 note to audition the loops. Remember that the "B1" loop is not going to be synced to your host.

3. Open up the folder that contains your ReTank loops. Each sub-folder contains SampleTank files and MIDI files. Find the MIDI file that corresponds to the loop you have chosen. Now, click and drag that MIDI file over to your host. Drop it onto a track, and it should show up. You may need to play with this to see how to do it in your host.

4. Now you need to assign that track to SampleTank. Each Host does that differently.

5. When you get the MIDI track assigned to SampleTank, you should hear the loop played in tempo.

6. In my host, I will need to copy and paste the MIDI file over and over to get the length I want. Your Host may do this differently.

[Krabat]
7. If you just want to play along, you can use the markers of your host, set them on start and end of the MIDI and then press the Loop-button of your host (I think most hosts have one).

8. If you use Cubase, try Ctrl+k for multiple paste of a selected part.


the ReTank Group Buy Extra Loops
[Squids, 06 December]
For those that purchased the recent ReTank Group Buy! Your great deal keeps on going... you now have over 1,500 more loops to download in your member's area in "My Downloads". First bonus is over 1,000 more ReTank loops including a world rhythm taste of the ReTank Style Pak "World Grooves" and a variety of other unique sounds.

The second bonus contains over 500 "Groove Elementz" loops! This is Groove Elementz 2. Another set of over 500 Groove Elementz loops are available for purchase or for free to qualifying customers (qualifying customers include the first 100 people to join the ReTank Group Buy, anyone who has purchased SampleTank from esoundz before, select Gold and Platinum members who participated in the ReTank Group Buy and anyone else can get the other set of Groove Elementz for free in the month of December simply by purchasing at least TWO SampleTank libraries from esoundz and asking support (at) esoundz (dot) com for the free Groove Elementz 1!).

Groove Elementz are parts of a beat such as hi hat patterns, kick and snare patterns, misc percussion etc. that can be layered together to create NEW grooves that are a composite of the elements used together. On their own they sound sparce and incomplete so they are able to be used together to construct interesting polyrhythms and full drum kit beats or other creations. You can also add Groove Elementz over other grooves for added percussion effects, more complex patterns... have fun!


Accessing the MIDI Files
DarkStar
To make thing easier, I have split out the MIDI files into a parallel series of folders and put them in a different folder which is eaasily accessible from my host:
-- copy the complete ReTank Loops library,
-- search for all the MIDI files (.mid) in the original Library - delete them,
-- search for all the SampleTank files (.st) in the copied library - delete them,

You'll end up with 2 sets of folders with the same sub-folder structure, one containing the ReTank sounds library, the other containing the MIDI files.

HTH

... to be continued

HTH
Last edited by DarkStar on Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:41 pm, edited 7 times in total.
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Downloading ST2L
I downloaded the three ReTanks, no problem. I have an "Activation Key" in my DL area on the esoundz site, along with an e-mail alerting me to a "Registration Key" that was added to my account, but I don't see where to DL ST 2.5L or is it physically shipped?
[DarkStar]
The Activation key / Registration key is for your ST2L. And you will see it's called a Serial Number in the ST2L Product Authorisation
- go to IKMM www.ikmultimedia.com
- set up a User Account, by clicking Support Tab then Registration TAB
- go to the Product Registration page,
- enter the Activation Key in the Serial Number field,
- you cannot enter a Digital Id at the moment (it's generated by the ST2L software),
- complete the other fields,
- click [Submit]

You have now registered your ST2L Serial number to your Account.

After a short while:
- select User Area, then Downloads,
- you should see SampleTank 2 L listed there,
- download it.

Now click User Area, then Sounds Downloads
- you should see the three ST2L Sound Library files there,
- we think that 1 of 8 etc refers to the complete ST2XL Library,
- download them.

Now click Promotions
- you should see the MIC Buy one Get One Free and MIC Million Software Give-Away items there if your are eligible,
- click on the button that says "Available" under the Status column
- if you have registered your SampleTank 2.5 L, this option will be there; if you haven't, there will be no available status.
- follow those links and download as you wish,
- I think that the Serial Numbers are automatically registered to your account.


Installing and Authorising ST2L
[DarkStar]
OK now you've got various products on your hard disk. next is installing and authorising them. I'll run through the installation for ST2 only, so you get the idea.

To install the software:
- double-click the (.exe?) file that you downloaded and follow the instructions,
- to install the Sounds Library, extract the files to where you want them to be,
- open ST2, cancel any Registration screens, select [Prefs] over on the right-hand side and navigate to point to your Sounds Library,
- you may want to turn off "Relist on Startup" too,
- ST2L will now build a cache file referencing the library.

The installation will have installed a "Installation and Authorisation" guide - the full details of the Product Authorisation are in there so I won't repeat them here (and there are several possible methods).

Essentially you enter your Serial Number into the software app, it generates a Digital Id, both are sent to IKMM, which generates an Authorisation Code (so it's a challenge/response process). For me that has always been straight-forward to do.


Using your Redeem key to get a ReTank Style Pak
[Squids]
Here's a little step by step on how to do it. This is being added to everyone (from the GB) user area on esoundz but here it is conveniently here too:

An important message about the FREE ReTank Style Pak for those that were in the ReTank Group Buy. We are offering you a special method of choosing the ReTank Style Pak of your choice on our dedicated download site "downloadablesoundz.com". You can link your esoundz account to downloadablesoundz.com quite easily and benefit from additional types of download products such as this "multi choice product" as well as use your epointz directly on ala carte loops and more by linking your account to downloadablesoundz.com. The redeem key you've received in your esoundz user area allows you to automatically receive a download of the ReTank Style Pak of your choice. Here is a step by step tutorial to explain you how to redeem your key from www.downloadablesoundz.com



1- you need to link your esoundz account to www.downloadablesoundz.com : you can do this easily by simply going to http://www.downloadablesoundz.com and attempt to login at the top right corner using your esoundz login and password. A dialog will show up that says the following:

We see that this account already exists on eSoundz.com. Do you want to use the same login/password for downloadablesoundz as well? The benefit of upgrading to downloadablesoundz is that you will be able to use your Creditz (named ePointz on eSoundz) on both websites.

Click on "Merge My Accounts"

2- It will say "Your accounts have been merged. Now you can login." So log-in into downloadablesoundz.

3- In a separate window of your browser go into your esoundz account and in the member's area in "my downloads" you should have a FREE key for the ReTank Style Pak.

4- Click on this key and you will go directly to the downloadablesoundz redeem key page. The key should be already in place and the only thing you have to do is to click redeem. WARNING: Once you start the redeem process, your key will be used and you cannot stop in the middle or the code will not work anymore and you'll have to contact support to reactivate it, in order to avoid this you MUST select a product and finalize the process.

5- You will see a page with a list of products to choose from. IMPORTANT: make sure you select just one product out of the selection of products otherwise it will ask you to go back and choose only one.

6- Click buy, you will see a summary of your purchase, if you made a mistake, you can click cancel and go back to the selection page.

7- That's it! The sounds will be in the Redeemed section of your new download area on downloadablesoundz.com Download it from there and enjoy the free sounds!

If you have any questions feel free to contact support.
Last edited by DarkStar on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:02 pm, edited 7 times in total.
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FAQS - ST2L
After purchasing the Retank Group Buy, there was no activation key for the IK side of things ie. sampletank and the other plugins. Not sure what to do now about registering on IK without the activation key...
[DarkStar]
The SampleTank 2 L Activation key will be in your eSoundz Downloads area, just above the 3 ReTank downloads. It's highlighted in pale green here. If not, then contact eSoundz. allen <at> esoundz <dot> com.

After you have registered ST2L at IKMM (see above), setting up an account if needed, you should see the Promotions available to you. After you have selected from the products available:
- the software installer(s) will be in your IKMM User Area >> Downloads area
- the Sounds Library installer(s) will be in your IKMM User Area >> Sounds Download area
- the Activation key(s) will be in your IKMM User Area > Authorizations area

After you have installed the software you will be able to register each one:
- you could generate the Digital Id by entering the Activation key into the app, as described above,
- click [View/Request] on the IKMM User Area > Authorizations page
- copy and paste the Digital Id into the blank field and click [Request New Authorization]
- copy and paste the Authorization Code into the blank field in the app

- there are other ways to authorise your products too - have a look in the Installation and Authorisation Guide.

When I go to the {IKMM} SOUNDS DOWNLOAD, the XP-VISTA download has only 3 sounds zip files, but they're labelled "1 of 8", "2 of 8" and so on.

Are there only 3 files, or do I need to look somewhere else for the other 5?
[zedd]
There are just three files. There would only be all 8 files if you had registered ST 2XL.
It lasts some minutes (feels like hours!) until Sampletank has loaded. Is this normal behaviour or do I have to have a closer look at my system?
[scuzzphut]
Go into the Preferences dialog in SampleTank (click the Prefs button in the interface) and check that "Relist on startup" is disabled.

My ST takes about 40 seconds to load even without relist on startup, so don't expect miracles :razz:

[Squids]
It takes a minute to database all of your sounds first. So it is normal. Once it has found all of them then it's own search function works properly. However, if you go into "Prefs" on the GUI and turn "Relist on start up" off then it will just remember the last relisting for its database for the search and it should load faster. Hope that helps!
if I try to load presets in ST2L. I get an error message sometimes, which says "Part1: Instrument Not Found"
[danbroad]
It might be that the combi list is based on the ST2.5XL library, and that the 'L' library doesn't have all the sounds necessary to create the combi. All the sounds are listed over on the SampleTank / eSoundz site - so it might be worth picking a sample section and cross-referencing the sounds you have with the sounds you're supposed to have.
I get a lot of 'instrument not found' too, but there's plenty of sounds and the download wasn't corrupted.

[DarkStar]
Good point; looking at the combis supplied with ST2XL here, there are 201 original .ikmp files, about 152MB.
Where is the ST2L manual?
[LGK_Dude and Laurent BERGMAN]
On a Mac it's installed in your Library/Documents/IK Multimedia/Sampletank folder.

[DarkStar]
For my ST2.5 XL in Windows XP:
C:\Program Files\IK Multimedia\SampleTank 2.5


FAQS - SampleTron
However, I notice that the SampleTron does not have any combi's. I checked the preset folder and it is empty. Anyone else have this issue? Any idea where the combi's are? I assume there are a bunch of 'em because Squids loves creating those things.
[DarkStar]
The SampleTron product has no combis. You can create and save your own combis (multi-instrument combinations) or your own user presets (particular settings and FX for a single instrument).

[buscemi]
You can purchase combis for it and the following at eSoundz:
· 100 New Sampletank Miroslav combis. (download) Sampletank
· 100 New Sonik Synth combis. (download) Patch
· 50 New combis for SampleTron. (download)
· 50 New SampleMoog combis. (download) Patch


FAQS - AmpliTube
[bronxsound]
I asked UK IK rep if there's any reason why I can't get X-Gear plug after registering AT Metal (It does not appear in download or promo sections). IK website says that it's free (for limited time) to owners of any AT product except for lite versions.

According to UK IK rep, serial numbers from this GB are assigned to US reseller (what a surprise ;)). From what he said, that's why AmpliTube registration does not trigger X-Gear availability in DL section.

So, I contacted IK in Italy (sent them an email) and I got X-Gear on my account within 8 hours (however there was no official email from them).
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The bonus ReTank loops don't seem to be available on either eSoundz or IKM's sites yet, or am I missing something?

(Squids - Loving my 'free' Miroslav CE BTW :hihi:)

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SteveBurley2000 wrote:The bonus ReTank loops don't seem to be available on either eSoundz or IKM's sites yet, or am I missing something?

(Squids - Loving my 'free' Miroslav CE BTW :hihi:)
on 27 Nov, Squids wrote:We'll just put it in your {eSoundz} user area. But the 500 loop bundles and 1,000 loop extras are going to be available later in the week than the first batch. Give the servers a breather. We also have to compile the extras!
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Cheers DarkStar.

The previous thread had too many pages to find this easily.

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Thank you very much for this kind piece of service. Much appreciated! :)
Do you have a solution ... or are you a part of the problem?

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Thank you very much for the input on the REtank loops.I will give them a try as I too was a bit confused by the format being used to acidized type files.

I also haven't gotten any of the add on extras either. :(

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After purchasing the Retank Group Buy, there was no activation key for the IK side of things ie. sampletank and the other plugins. Not sure what to do now about registering on IK without the activation key...

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The SampleTank 2 L Activation key will be in your eSoundz Downloads area, just above the 3 ReTank downloads. It's highlighted in pale green here. If not, then contact eSoundz. allen <at> esoundz <dot> com.

After you have registered ST2L at IKMM (see above), setting up an account if needed, you should see the Promotions available to you. After you have selected from the products available:
- the software installer(s) will be in your IKMM User Area >> Downloads area
- the Sounds Library installer(s) will be in your IKMM User Area >> Sounds Download area
- the Activation key(s) will be in your IKMM User Area > Authorizations area

After you have installed the software you will be able to register each one:
- you could generate the Digital Id by entering the Activation key into the app, as described above,
- click [View/Request] on the IKMM User Area > Authorizations page
- copy and paste the Digital Id into the blank field and click [Request New Authorization]
- copy and paste the Authorization Code into the blank field in the app

- there are other ways to authorise your products too - have a look in the Installation and Authorisation Guide

HTH
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Thanks for the help Darkness.

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I've added today's News about the Extra loops and rearranged things.
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Using your Redeem key to get a ReTank Style Pak
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