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StilettoInTheSnow · Post by **StilettoInTheSnow** » Sun May 03, 2009 6:00 pm

Hi guys. Anyone have any ideas on where to find a concertina vsti, or a vsti that has a good concertina preset?

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Sun May 03, 2009 9:14 pm

maybe try peti

StilettoInTheSnow · Post by **StilettoInTheSnow** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:02 am

Thats an accordian. Any one know of a Concertina?

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:17 am

EastWest/Quantum Leap Colossus

StilettoInTheSnow · Post by **StilettoInTheSnow** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:41 am

Aloysius wrote:EastWest/Quantum Leap Colossus

A THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!!!!

Sledgehammer cracking a nut there I feel. Anything else?

beltrom · Post by **beltrom** » Mon May 04, 2009 12:02 pm

StilettoInTheSnow wrote:
Aloysius wrote:EastWest/Quantum Leap Colossus
A THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!!!!

Sledgehammer cracking a nut there I feel. Anything else?

Try SFZ with a soundfont.

Maybe: http://62.131.235.156/soundfonts/

If that's not good enough try a google search.
Several concertinas out there.

umd · Post by **umd** » Mon May 04, 2009 1:08 pm

I bought these a while ago, I know they're not concertinas, but you may find something useful there:

http://www.store.precisionsound.net/car ... oninfo.php
http://www.store.precisionsound.net/accordioninfo.php

StilettoInTheSnow · Post by **StilettoInTheSnow** » Mon May 04, 2009 2:22 pm

Argh. looking round, this soundfont seems to be the most popular. However, its been compressed in mac SIT format. I use windows XP. I dont want to purchase the stuffit program for a single file, so, any ideas on how I can get the SF2 from the SIT file?

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Audio/Conc ... Font.shtml

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Mon May 04, 2009 6:26 pm

Ha, ha, ha!!! I found a real one, in Kontakt Format! I was looking for a Pad sound, and there it was! Great value from one of my fav' Companies too! It's part of The Anthology series. Part II [Celtic Wind], Concertina! Pop on over to Bela D Media if interested!

pekadan · Post by **pekadan** » Mon May 04, 2009 6:51 pm

Aloysius wrote:Ha, ha, ha!!! I found a real one, in Kontakt Format! I was looking for a Pad sound, and there it was! Great value from one of my fav' Companies too! It's part of The Anthology series. Part II [Celtic Wind], Concertina! Pop on over to Bela D Media if interested!

Yeah, the one in Celtic Wind is EXCELLENT!! http://www.beladmedia.com/acw2009.htm

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Mon May 04, 2009 7:02 pm

Sampletank 2L has a concertina, as well.

Doug

gbcunich · Post by **gbcunich** » Mon May 04, 2009 7:22 pm

Stiletto,

if I am not wrong the Stuffit demo is fully functional, so you shouldn't have to buy the program.

I can post you the unzipped Sf2 file anyway.

Otherways you could try this this:

http://www.sf2midi.com/soundfonts/file- ... 2-779.html

Also I could add that you should find some old EMU stuff, possibly in soundfont format too, on the cheap side...

Edit: Post accordions includes an English concertina. That should be cheap as well, and available for download. I toyed with the idea to buy it...then ended up buying the real instrument!

liqih · Post by **liqih** » Tue May 05, 2009 5:10 am

StilettoInTheSnow wrote:Thats an accordian. Any one know of a Concertina?

A concertina is a free-reed musical instrument with bellows, like accordian, organetto, bandoneon etc..
from the synthesis point of view that is "free-reed" sound + bellows envelope + air noise + buttons noise.
Peti is designed for harmonium sound but it can emulate other free-reed instruments
http://www.nusofting.liqihsynth.com/peti.html

Chupachup · Post by **Chupachup** » Tue May 05, 2009 5:15 am

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StilettoInTheSnow wrote:Argh. looking round, this soundfont seems to be the most popular. However, its been compressed in mac SIT format. I use windows XP. I dont want to purchase the stuffit program for a single file, so, any ideas on how I can get the SF2 from the SIT file?

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Audio/Conc ... Font.shtml (http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Audio/Concertina-Sound-Font.shtml)

You can download the free StuffIt Expander for Windows from Download.com:

http://download.cnet.com/StuffIt-Expand ... 00385.html (http://download.cnet.com/StuffIt-Expander/3000-2248_4-10900385.html)

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gbcunich · Post by **gbcunich** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:37 pm

A concertina is a free-reed musical instrument with bellows, like accordian, organetto, bandoneon etc..
from the synthesis point of view that is "free-reed" sound + bellows envelope + air noise + buttons noise.
Peti is designed for harmonium sound but it can emulate other free-reed instruments
http://www.nusofting.liqihsynth.com/peti.html

Strictly speaking, there are two things that make a concertina easy to spot among other free reed instruments with bellows.

The first is that concertina are generally single reed instruments, though in Irish music you may find the odd double reed Anglo instrument. Melodions and accordions usually have two to four reeds, tuned in two or three different octaves. The German Konzertina and the Bandoneon usually have two reeds tuned in octaves.

The second thing is that each reed is mounted in a single cell that acts as a resonator, but Italian concertinas (the cheap Anglos once made by Bastari for the South African market, but also the far better instruments now built by Stagi, like the one sampled in Post Accordions) are built in a different way.

Given this, there are some different systems, and a number of variations among them. The Anglo concertina was developed from the melodion, that in turn developed from the mouth organ, and is a bisonoric instrument (each button play different notes wether you push or pull the bellows), and is basically a diatonic instrument (even if the keyboard of an Anglo German instruments is fully cromathic). They were the traditional instruments in Ireland and England.

The English system is genuine cromathic unisonoric instrument, with the notes spread among the two sides. It was originally built in family for the middle class amateurs musicians, though in England between the wars become a working class instruments, with large concertina bands that adopted the instrument as an alternative to the expensive brass instruments.

The variuos duet system concertinas were chromatic unisonoric instruments, but bass notes were played by the left hand, and the high register with the right hand - in other words wamping on one side and melody on the other! They were the Salvation Army peculiar instrument, and fairly popular among music hall performers.

There is a recently concieved system (the Haydn, if I am not wrong), that was developed in England in the seventies (last century) that basically adopts the chromatic button accordion keybord (you can easily play in different keys using the same fingering sequence a few buttons apart).

I need a Concertina