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- KVRist
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- 327 posts since 26 Aug, 2003
Diva by Design 5.1 Audio Version
This sample library is soon to be released.
The demo will explain…
http://www.beladmedia.com/diva-by-design.mp3
Thank you for your interest.
Francis Belardino
This sample library is soon to be released.
The demo will explain…
http://www.beladmedia.com/diva-by-design.mp3
Thank you for your interest.
Francis Belardino
Bela D Media.com
http://www.beladmedia.com
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- KVRist
- 298 posts since 18 Aug, 2001 from UK
Thanks Francis , you caught my attention with this post
I have not noticed you here before though I see you have
made some posts previously .
Your vocal library looks intersting and a reasonable price too
(more in my price range than some of the others)
Could you please explain to me what the performance files are
and how they would be used
I have not noticed you here before though I see you have
made some posts previously .
Your vocal library looks intersting and a reasonable price too
(more in my price range than some of the others)
Could you please explain to me what the performance files are
and how they would be used
Thank youPerformance Files
Soul of Spirits performed by soloist 1
Tempo 80
Key of E minor
17 performances with score provided
Mournful Cry performed by soloist 1
Tempo 80
Key of F# minor
12 performances with score provided
Curse of the Crow performed by soloist 2
Tempo 60
Key of G minor
12 performances with score provided
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- KVRist
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- 327 posts since 26 Aug, 2003
Hi Raven and thank you.
Both Diva Classical Female Soloists and Diva by Design include Performance Files.
Performance Files, a trilogy of mood driven phrases capturing natural legato and a varying degree of breathing, and mouth noises.
Diva by Design, takes the performance files one step further via sound design and effects.
Diva by Design also places the Performance Files into 5.1 audio sessions.
Diva Classical Female Soloists GigaStudio 2 CD Library Multisamples/Performance Files
= $149.99 with free shipping to all countries.
Free shipping expires September 22, 2003.
Diva by Design 1 CD = $99.99 with free shipping. Pre release orders are available via email only at this time.
There are no license restrictions.
To learn more visit www.beladmedia.com
To hear the official Diva demo by Kaveh Cohen (A&E, TLC, History Channel)
Visit www.beladmedia.com/audio.html
Hope I helped.
Check the FAQ section of the site to see what's next form us
Best wishes
Francis Belardino
Both Diva Classical Female Soloists and Diva by Design include Performance Files.
Performance Files, a trilogy of mood driven phrases capturing natural legato and a varying degree of breathing, and mouth noises.
Diva by Design, takes the performance files one step further via sound design and effects.
Diva by Design also places the Performance Files into 5.1 audio sessions.
Diva Classical Female Soloists GigaStudio 2 CD Library Multisamples/Performance Files
= $149.99 with free shipping to all countries.
Free shipping expires September 22, 2003.
Diva by Design 1 CD = $99.99 with free shipping. Pre release orders are available via email only at this time.
There are no license restrictions.
To learn more visit www.beladmedia.com
To hear the official Diva demo by Kaveh Cohen (A&E, TLC, History Channel)
Visit www.beladmedia.com/audio.html
Hope I helped.
Check the FAQ section of the site to see what's next form us
Best wishes
Francis Belardino
Bela D Media.com
http://www.beladmedia.com
- vvvvvvv
- 2581 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk
Devon ... if you're around, have you heard the demo
Member 12, Studio One v6.6, VPS Avenger, Kontakt 7, Spitfire, Dune, Arturia, Sonible, Baby Audio, CableGuys.
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- KVRist
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- 327 posts since 26 Aug, 2003
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- KVRAF
- 7840 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
Yes, I'm around, and yes, I've heard the demo. Overall, not bad. I'm not happy with any of the demos honestly. I liked the beta demos better for some strange reason. Some of the legato sounded a bit too disjointed/unsmooth. I understand Frank's philosophy of 'out of the box' sound, but I don't think that was such a great idea, IMHO. Also, the voice is not compressed whatsoever in the demos, so it tends to get buried, not really making it shine. I might pick it up some day to round out my SOV and VOTA collection, but I'm passing on it for now.kevvvvv wrote:Devon ... if you're around, have you heard the demo
Devon
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- KVRist
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- 327 posts since 26 Aug, 2003
Hi Devon
Thank you for your input.
As far as the legato - Diva by Design demo is all performance files.
The legato is perfectly natural as to how the singers had performed.
On the GigaStudio version… updates are soon to follow that will address achieving the most realistic legato possible with the recorded samples. Bear in mind Diva is not VSL nor does it cost as much. LOL
"Out of the box", I completely understand what you are saying here but please consider my view as well.
Speaking on behalf of the GigaStudio version... If I had done all of that heavy compression, additional EQ’ing, added reverb and so fourth...what is the user left with? How much control would you have? You have to understand that I am a sound designer more than a composer. To me, it seems to make perfect sense. I would much rather capture a few audio tracks of Diva and THEN do everything you say is not there. In the end, the user has more control.
Note: Diva GigaStudio version does have close and far mic samples. In addition, an impulse file of the church is provided.
To continue: Same goes for the demo by Kaveh and the next demo by Doyle. We feel that it is best to NOT showcase Diva in the sense of a “DIVA” demo but more to show how the composer can employee the voices in a score. After all, that is what the user will do. Not load Diva and make a Diva demo but make a score and add a touch of female vocal.
Please do not take this as defensive. I truly appreciate your comments. This is my first go and I am still learning. You input is always helpful.
Best
FB
Thank you for your input.
As far as the legato - Diva by Design demo is all performance files.
The legato is perfectly natural as to how the singers had performed.
On the GigaStudio version… updates are soon to follow that will address achieving the most realistic legato possible with the recorded samples. Bear in mind Diva is not VSL nor does it cost as much. LOL
"Out of the box", I completely understand what you are saying here but please consider my view as well.
Speaking on behalf of the GigaStudio version... If I had done all of that heavy compression, additional EQ’ing, added reverb and so fourth...what is the user left with? How much control would you have? You have to understand that I am a sound designer more than a composer. To me, it seems to make perfect sense. I would much rather capture a few audio tracks of Diva and THEN do everything you say is not there. In the end, the user has more control.
Note: Diva GigaStudio version does have close and far mic samples. In addition, an impulse file of the church is provided.
To continue: Same goes for the demo by Kaveh and the next demo by Doyle. We feel that it is best to NOT showcase Diva in the sense of a “DIVA” demo but more to show how the composer can employee the voices in a score. After all, that is what the user will do. Not load Diva and make a Diva demo but make a score and add a touch of female vocal.
Please do not take this as defensive. I truly appreciate your comments. This is my first go and I am still learning. You input is always helpful.
Best
FB
Bela D Media.com
http://www.beladmedia.com
- vvvvvvv
- 2581 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk
Bela
The demos are really good, classy.
I can close my eyes and saturate myself in the kind of sounds you're producing. Magical for me.
I think anyone in the market for what you offer has great sounds handed to them on a plate.
But on the downside, for me it's a specialist interest.
For fifty bucks I'd buy them tomorrow, but for your asking price (which I openly admit is very reasonable, and certainly good value in the Giga market) I'd need to have a specific job I could offset the cost against.
I can imagine others being in the same situation as me. They need the job to fund the purchase.
OTOH if someone needs soloists, or has cash to throw around, then buy them. There's nothing else like Diva.
Bela ... I love your stuff, both Diva and Diva by Design.Kevvvv,
Your thoughts on the demo?
The demos are really good, classy.
I can close my eyes and saturate myself in the kind of sounds you're producing. Magical for me.
I think anyone in the market for what you offer has great sounds handed to them on a plate.
But on the downside, for me it's a specialist interest.
For fifty bucks I'd buy them tomorrow, but for your asking price (which I openly admit is very reasonable, and certainly good value in the Giga market) I'd need to have a specific job I could offset the cost against.
I can imagine others being in the same situation as me. They need the job to fund the purchase.
OTOH if someone needs soloists, or has cash to throw around, then buy them. There's nothing else like Diva.
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- KVRist
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- 327 posts since 26 Aug, 2003
Thank you for such a kind reply.
You just gave me a wonderful ideal. I will PM you about it.
You just gave me a wonderful ideal. I will PM you about it.
Bela D Media.com
http://www.beladmedia.com
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- KVRAF
- 7840 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
Hi Frank,Bela D Media wrote:Hi Devon
On the GigaStudio version… updates are soon to follow that will address achieving the most realistic legato possible with the recorded samples. Bear in mind Diva is not VSL nor does it cost as much. LOL
"Out of the box", I completely understand what you are saying here but please consider my view as well.
Speaking on behalf of the GigaStudio version... If I had done all of that heavy compression, additional EQ’ing, added reverb and so fourth...what is the user left with? How much control would you have? You have to understand that I am a sound designer more than a composer. To me, it seems to make perfect sense. I would much rather capture a few audio tracks of Diva and THEN do everything you say is not there. In the end, the user has more control.
You mistook me slightly. I meant the demos with a touch of EQ, compression, etc to bring up the vocals in the mix. What you could do is provide a 'super polished' demo with all the trimmings done to it as well. That to me, would give me a better idea what I'd expect in my studio. No, providing it *AS IS* without the eq, comp, etc on the SAMPLES, THAT is perfect. Do all the mangling later. I'm JUST referring to the demo only.
I'm certainly not looking for VSL performance tool, that's for sure! Just some of the legato note switches in the demo sounded a bit unnatural, and am unsure how hard/easy it is to work around it.
And yes, I undestand your position. Now just come out with a 'super spiffed up' demo, and label it as such.
Devon
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 327 posts since 26 Aug, 2003
Point well made
So, you feel that, in so many words, Kaveh's demo was flat?
It's funny that you prefer the beta demos. I composed them and I am not in the league of Kaveh. Although, one was composed by Sam Hulick.
NOTE: All demos can be found at www.houseofsamples.com
I will pass this on to Doyle Donehoo. He is preparing a 3-minute demo that will feature Diva in and out at times.
Again let me thank you for your input. I am sure you are aware that Diva is all over the Internet now and while 90% off the comments have been positive… you offer solutions and do not bash. I truly thank you for that.
By the way, look for a full Diva review in EQ magazine, SOS, Screentalk and the Guide to MIDI Orchestration.
Preliminary review …So far so good I am waiting anxiously for the results.
Best
Francis
So, you feel that, in so many words, Kaveh's demo was flat?
It's funny that you prefer the beta demos. I composed them and I am not in the league of Kaveh. Although, one was composed by Sam Hulick.
NOTE: All demos can be found at www.houseofsamples.com
I will pass this on to Doyle Donehoo. He is preparing a 3-minute demo that will feature Diva in and out at times.
Again let me thank you for your input. I am sure you are aware that Diva is all over the Internet now and while 90% off the comments have been positive… you offer solutions and do not bash. I truly thank you for that.
By the way, look for a full Diva review in EQ magazine, SOS, Screentalk and the Guide to MIDI Orchestration.
Preliminary review …So far so good I am waiting anxiously for the results.
Best
Francis
Bela D Media.com
http://www.beladmedia.com
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- KVRAF
- 7840 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
Kaveh's demo is fabulous.... musically. Excellent musical queue to say the least, BUT, the SOLO (key word here) is so buried. If you're highlighting a SOLO, to me, I want to HEAR the solo. But it gets buried in the music so much, but there's a LOT of cressendos in there, so it makes sense. But to me, that wasn't a wise choice to 'showcase' what you've got.Bela D Media wrote:Point well made
So, you feel that, in so many words, Kaveh's demo was flat?
It's funny that you prefer the beta demos. I composed them and I am not in the league of Kaveh. Although, one was composed by Sam Hulick.
Sam's demo, honestly, I think is the worst. The 'space' within it is just so disjointed. The piano drowns out the vocalist, when it should take a back seat to the song, IMHO. Then right at :34, I'm not sure why the reverb sounds so nasally and hollow. Sounds like the bottom end was chopped out of the voice. It continues through to :43, and then sounds like it's in a new 'space' again for the rest of the piece like it was in the beginning.
These demos are certainly better than the older ones, except for the initial post you did. I just remember a 'solo' of just her that I thought sounded good as it stood, but I wasn't trying to rip it apart either at that time, since I knew you were posting just a 'taste'. The legato problems are gone out of these pieces that I was hearing before in earlier pieces.
Can you tell I'm in beta test mode? I'm very critical, but I try my best to offer something besides 'god, this sucks' type of comments. Hey, not that I'm some godlike composer myself. Kaveh is certainly ahead of my composition and skill-wise. I got the libraries, I just need more time with them. I think this would be nice to round out my VOTA and SOV collection someday though. I think I might be more interested in your male solo vocalists though, honestly. Boys/girls choirs would also be VERY welcome too.
Hope that helps to clarify. And say hi to Al for me from MTLC. I talk to him quite a bit. Good place for shopping.
Devon
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- KVRist
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- 327 posts since 26 Aug, 2003
…And the Ensemble demo?
http://www.beladmedia.com/Ensemble.mp3
This one I did.
Yeah, Al be dah man I was happy to have MTLC move Diva.
Sam's demo was really beta. It was only one voice and 2 files. Not mastered audio and so fourth. I hear what you are saying about kaveh's demo. Yes... it is a great score but the solo voices are a tad far back.
Hmm? Maybe I can get a remix from Kaveh. I'll see.
I want to add that Kaveh is my favorite "online" composer.
I am very lucky to have his talent and backing.
Doyle, is amazing as well!!
www.beladmedia.com/composers.html
to learn more about them
PS. Youth Choir is booked. Released after Phantom Voice!
http://www.beladmedia.com/Ensemble.mp3
This one I did.
Yeah, Al be dah man I was happy to have MTLC move Diva.
Sam's demo was really beta. It was only one voice and 2 files. Not mastered audio and so fourth. I hear what you are saying about kaveh's demo. Yes... it is a great score but the solo voices are a tad far back.
Hmm? Maybe I can get a remix from Kaveh. I'll see.
I want to add that Kaveh is my favorite "online" composer.
I am very lucky to have his talent and backing.
Doyle, is amazing as well!!
www.beladmedia.com/composers.html
to learn more about them
PS. Youth Choir is booked. Released after Phantom Voice!
Bela D Media.com
http://www.beladmedia.com
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- KVRAF
- 7840 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
Sounds too 'wet' with the 'verb, natural or not, I'm sure. Cool though, and sets the mood. It might be with so much competition for the same freq space though too.
I just feel like I'm always struggling trying to HEAR the voice. I guess the best way I can describe it, to me, is that this is like a lead guiar solo, and the vocalist is that solo. I want to hear it, not try to pick it out of the mix. I want to know that it can stand up and go 'hey, I'm here! Listen to me!'. You've certainly shown that it can sit well behind stuff, which for a choir, makes sense to me, but not necessarily a soloist. I want to hear the SOLO aspect of it, because that's exactly how I'D use it personally. I guess I should put that emphasis on this whole thing, for MY use, it be solo work, and I haven't heard an example that made me comfortable that it can really sit up front nicely or not.
Devon
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- KVRist
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- 327 posts since 26 Aug, 2003
I think you need to know ... and this was stated from day one ... the focal point of Diva is the softer, haunting side of the female voice. There are no FF samples. Mezzo-Forte is the loudest. This was my plan!
I have to tell you Devon, IMO ... that Ensemble demo sounds very VERY real to me. I record choirs all the time. I think it sounds more real (is that a word?) than others out there that are double the price.
I guess I should not state my feelings on my own product but I just had too. I stand by that sound.
I have to tell you Devon, IMO ... that Ensemble demo sounds very VERY real to me. I record choirs all the time. I think it sounds more real (is that a word?) than others out there that are double the price.
I guess I should not state my feelings on my own product but I just had too. I stand by that sound.
Bela D Media.com
http://www.beladmedia.com