Playing with black keys only??
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- KVRist
- 144 posts since 11 Oct, 2006
Hello my friends!!
not sure if i post it in the correct category so forgive me if i didnt!
I just watched a free video from future music "In studio with Steve Angelo"
and i noticed that he was using ONLY the black keyboard keys when producing key shots, pads, leads, strings, bass, almost everything!!
Is there any secret for playing only with the black keys??
thnank you very much!!
not sure if i post it in the correct category so forgive me if i didnt!
I just watched a free video from future music "In studio with Steve Angelo"
and i noticed that he was using ONLY the black keyboard keys when producing key shots, pads, leads, strings, bass, almost everything!!
Is there any secret for playing only with the black keys??
thnank you very much!!
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- KVRAF
- 3404 posts since 15 Sep, 2002
Yeah, the black keys are a pentatonic scale. Anything you play on black keys should sound good.
Add in one white key (try to find the right one to add by ear) and you have a blues scale.
Of course that's only one pentatonic scale. But it's very easy to play for obvious reasons. On a keyboard that lets you transpose key, you should be able to play any pentatonic scale on the black keys.
Of course that's only one pentatonic scale. But it's very easy to play for obvious reasons. On a keyboard that lets you transpose key, you should be able to play any pentatonic scale on the black keys.
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- KVRAF
- 2263 posts since 6 Aug, 2007
All black keys = one of the pentatonic scales (not sure which key). Technically, if you use ONLY black keys, you can't hit a bad note.
But please: anyone reading this thread, don't start doing this. Using only black keys is so lame, and the overall tonality is completely bland, as all of the "interesting" scale degrees have been removed.
Even using all WHITE keys is better, because at least that comprises two different FULL scales.
I'm no music snob--I entirely believe that people should use whatever method they can to express themselves. But there is no expression in using the black keys--it's just a way for people to put less effort into music making (it's one step above Magic Garageband and IK's dumb little iPhone thing).
But please: anyone reading this thread, don't start doing this. Using only black keys is so lame, and the overall tonality is completely bland, as all of the "interesting" scale degrees have been removed.
Even using all WHITE keys is better, because at least that comprises two different FULL scales.
I'm no music snob--I entirely believe that people should use whatever method they can to express themselves. But there is no expression in using the black keys--it's just a way for people to put less effort into music making (it's one step above Magic Garageband and IK's dumb little iPhone thing).
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- KVRAF
- 1718 posts since 3 Sep, 2003
It's a D# minor pentatonic scale, the blue note would be A.. I think.
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- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRAF
- 3404 posts since 15 Sep, 2002
Is it E-flat minor?sockofgold wrote:All black keys = one of the pentatonic scales (not sure which key).
Swing is the difference between a drum machine and a sex machine.
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- KVRAF
- 1585 posts since 13 Nov, 2005 from St. Paul
It's Gb or F# major pentatonic, which has the Eb or D# minor pentatonic as a relative. Play a lot of the lowest note in the group of three black keys to get a major sound, or play the highest note in the group of two black keys to get a major sound. The conventional blue note is an A, which is the white key between the middle and the highest black note in the group of three.
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- KVRAF
- 3404 posts since 15 Sep, 2002
"Play a lot of the lowest note in the group of three black keys to get a major sound, or play the highest note in the group of two black keys to get a major sound."jmeier wrote:It's Gb or F# major pentatonic, which has the Eb or D# minor pentatonic as a relative. Play a lot of the lowest note in the group of three black keys to get a major sound, or play the highest note in the group of two black keys to get a major sound. The conventional blue note is an A, which is the white key between the middle and the highest black note in the group of three.
I bet one of those "majors" was supposed to be a "minor."
Swing is the difference between a drum machine and a sex machine.
- KVRAF
- 4801 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from Warszawa, Poland
Was it this keyboard?


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- KVRAF
- 1666 posts since 28 Jun, 2007 from Amazon rain forest
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- KVRian
- 632 posts since 30 Jan, 2005 from berlin
it's actually 7 different scales (ionian,dorian,phrygian etc.)sockofgold wrote:
Even using all WHITE keys is better, because at least that comprises two different FULL scales.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
ANY of these five notes can be taken as the root note.
EG: Begun on C#, you happen to lack a third, which doesn't mean it isn't a 'pentatonic scale'.
EG: Begun on C#, you happen to lack a third, which doesn't mean it isn't a 'pentatonic scale'.
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- KVRAF
- 3404 posts since 15 Sep, 2002
Interesting. And it's kinda fun if you try to make the blue note the root.jancivil wrote:ANY of these five notes can be taken as the root note.
EG: Begun on C#, you happen to lack a third, which doesn't mean it isn't a 'pentatonic scale'.
Swing is the difference between a drum machine and a sex machine.