What's this drum pattern?
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Fragile_Frankie Fragile_Frankie https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=207546
- KVRist
- 205 posts since 17 May, 2009
I understand the kick/snare pattern, which is simple and basically the same the entire song along with a few snare rolls. But I can't figure out the hats.
In general, I can "get" kick and snare patterns from songs, and I know how make my own, but I can't do hi-hats, unless it's a really simple four-on-the-floor loop.
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- KVRist
- 441 posts since 30 Apr, 2007
This is actually an authentic sounding drum groove (something a real drummer might play for a pop song) except those snare drum fills. The main hat part goes something like: 1 & 2 &a3e& 4 &a. Some drummers might not have the chops to play all of that over and over with one hand at this fast speed, but the space around counts 2 and 4 would allow the left hand to play the snare on those counts and help out with the 16th notes on the hat in between.
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Fragile_Frankie Fragile_Frankie https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=207546
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 205 posts since 17 May, 2009
I really don't fully understand that. How would you turn "1 & 2 &a3e& 4 &a" into a useable pattern?
And which are open hats, which are closed?
I can easily figure hats out with a song like this:
But not with dnb breakbeats.
Here's the kick and snare pattern from the song, which I made in renoise. Not sure if BPM is important in this case, but I randomly chose 160. How could I take "1 & 2 &a3e& 4 &a" apply that to this:

And which are open hats, which are closed?
I can easily figure hats out with a song like this:
But not with dnb breakbeats.
Here's the kick and snare pattern from the song, which I made in renoise. Not sure if BPM is important in this case, but I randomly chose 160. How could I take "1 & 2 &a3e& 4 &a" apply that to this:

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- KVRist
- 441 posts since 30 Apr, 2007
So you would have a hat hit at 0, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, and 15. Then you can repeat that pattern like you've done with the bass and snare. All of those are closed hi hat.
Every group of 16 lines there represents one measure (or bar) of music. The four main beats (lines 0, 4, 8, 12, etc.) are quarter notes and could be counted like "One Two Three Four". Those notes are usually the kick in dance music, and snares or claps often come on Two and Four. If you subdivide that into 8 parts per measure (lines 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 14, etc.) those are eighth notes. The eighth notes are where hi hat most commonly plays. It can be counted like "One and Two and Three and Four and". Each line on your program represents a sixteenth note. Some people keep time by counting the sixteenth notes like "One ee and uh Two ee and uh Three ee and uh Four ee and uh". That way of counting was how I tried to express the rhythm.
Every group of 16 lines there represents one measure (or bar) of music. The four main beats (lines 0, 4, 8, 12, etc.) are quarter notes and could be counted like "One Two Three Four". Those notes are usually the kick in dance music, and snares or claps often come on Two and Four. If you subdivide that into 8 parts per measure (lines 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 14, etc.) those are eighth notes. The eighth notes are where hi hat most commonly plays. It can be counted like "One and Two and Three and Four and". Each line on your program represents a sixteenth note. Some people keep time by counting the sixteenth notes like "One ee and uh Two ee and uh Three ee and uh Four ee and uh". That way of counting was how I tried to express the rhythm.
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Fragile_Frankie Fragile_Frankie https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=207546
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 205 posts since 17 May, 2009
ah all right, thanks, I'll try that.