vsti on different MIDI channels
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 15 Dec, 2008
Hi, I've just moved from using Cubase 5 to Cantabile lite for live VSTi performance. I'm unsure at the moment how to set up VSTi racks so that the instrument on them is receiving MIDI data from my external keyboard on different channels. So, i have rack 1 set to MIDI channel 1, rack 2 to MIDI channel 2 etc, but changing my master MIDI keyboard global channel (e.g. from 1 to ) does not play the specific instrument on that channel. Is there something i'm doing wrong? Should i be changing the MIDI channels in the plug-in GUI also ? What about those VSTi that dont allow this such as Mtron Pro etc. thanks!
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from Germany
Hi,
well, this depends on the behavior of the vsti. Some non-multitumbral vsti receive MIDI-Data on any channel (FM7/FM8 f.e.). In this case your setup should work properly.
Then we have non-multitimbral ones that receive on one (or more) dedicated channels. In this case it is important to set the plugin to a receive-channel in the plugin-settings that fits your needs (to be serious: in this case it is not necessary to select a special channel in the cantabile settings).
If the receive-channel cannot be changed you're only able to receive on this fixed channel. If you'd use the more comfortable versions of cantabile you have MIDI-filters available in the rack-tools section. If you use the channel-map function you can change the received channel to the one you need for your plug.
Additionally you have available midi-routing-table (performer version only). Here you have the possibilty to do much more midi manipulation.
Hope this can be of some help,
regards, humphrey
well, this depends on the behavior of the vsti. Some non-multitumbral vsti receive MIDI-Data on any channel (FM7/FM8 f.e.). In this case your setup should work properly.
Then we have non-multitimbral ones that receive on one (or more) dedicated channels. In this case it is important to set the plugin to a receive-channel in the plugin-settings that fits your needs (to be serious: in this case it is not necessary to select a special channel in the cantabile settings).
If the receive-channel cannot be changed you're only able to receive on this fixed channel. If you'd use the more comfortable versions of cantabile you have MIDI-filters available in the rack-tools section. If you use the channel-map function you can change the received channel to the one you need for your plug.
Additionally you have available midi-routing-table (performer version only). Here you have the possibilty to do much more midi manipulation.
Hope this can be of some help,
regards, humphrey
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 5 Aug, 2010 from Los Angeles, CA
I don't have lite so not sure what features are on lite vs pro, but you can use midi assignments to map midi channels and racks as well.
For example, you're controller is on, say midi channel 5 but your VST listens on channel 1. You can, through midi assignments, tell your setup that if anything comes in on midi channel 5, direct it to rack #5 and transpose to midi channel 1.
I use this technique quite a bit and it works great. Technically you could have all your racks on midi channel 1 and use midi assignments to direct where you want incoming midi signals to go and on what channel you want to listen/transfer over to the racks on.
Cheers
Jim
For example, you're controller is on, say midi channel 5 but your VST listens on channel 1. You can, through midi assignments, tell your setup that if anything comes in on midi channel 5, direct it to rack #5 and transpose to midi channel 1.
I use this technique quite a bit and it works great. Technically you could have all your racks on midi channel 1 and use midi assignments to direct where you want incoming midi signals to go and on what channel you want to listen/transfer over to the racks on.
Cheers
Jim
The tool that gives you the results you expected *is* the right tool for the job.
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from Germany
...and the same is true for midi-controller assignments.
regards, humphrey
regards, humphrey
hosts: c8.5, cantabile3.0, forte4.0, live 9, trakor
hardware: i7 4770k, i7 4702qm, all audio converters RME, KH120A
vsts / vstis: u-he, voxengo, fabfilter, izotope, lexicon, waves, spectrasonics, ni, steinberg, gsi, uvi, xfer & others
hardware: i7 4770k, i7 4702qm, all audio converters RME, KH120A
vsts / vstis: u-he, voxengo, fabfilter, izotope, lexicon, waves, spectrasonics, ni, steinberg, gsi, uvi, xfer & others
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 5 Aug, 2010 from Los Angeles, CA
Bummer. IMO it's one of the coolest features of Cantabile. Definitely makes it worth buying pro version
Cheers
Jim
Cheers
Jim
The tool that gives you the results you expected *is* the right tool for the job.
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 2 Sep, 2006
Cubase 5 wasn't exactly cheap, right?codevyper wrote:Bummer. IMO it's one of the coolest features of Cantabile. Definitely makes it worth buying pro version
Cheers
Jim
Cantabile pro is about $139, with a 30-day money back guarantee; if you don't like it for any reason, simply get a refund. But take my word for it -- you won't. You probably spent more money on your keyboard stand than you will on Cantabile, and this is a serious tool for the performing musician, whether you're going totally virtual or (like me) needing the best way to integrate virtual and hardware instruments.
You already know how well Cantabile lite works for you, and the MIDI routing, triggers, sub-sessions, clock sync... it's well worth the measly $139 Brad is asking.