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IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:25 am

The apple site states that you can order the iPad 2 from tomorrow 11/3. With a dual core processor and with iWorks and Garageband, it seems that they try to take the concept much further than the iPad as a toy, player or browser.

I have always been into mobile computers because I make music on the run as well as writing documents or making slide shows. I have especially appriciated the development of netbooks, making the mobile computer as small and handy as possible.

Now I am thinking of buying an iPad 2 with a keyboard dock to completely replace my laptop for mobile work. I already have an iPod and so far I am satisfied, but not overwhelmed, by the quality of music apps, and with iWorks (AND a keyboard dock) my needs seems to be fulfilled by the iPad which is both smaller/thinner and more inspiring to work with than a computer due to the touch screen.

However, I am interested in your perspectives on this development in general, hence the trolling title of this thread. What do you think? How far could the iPad 2 replace your daily needs and would you be tempted to buy it for any reason?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:33 am

I'm planning to get one to replace my netbook - it hasn't the power to replace my DAW laptop though

metamorphosis · Post by **metamorphosis** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:38 am

randyandyvandaman · Post by **randyandyvandaman** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:02 am

The I- PAds are supposedly good for running apps but not major programs.

They are underpowered and I wouldn't trade a quadcore laptop for an I pad to make music.

Price wise an Ipad is over 600 plus for a 64 gb model and you can pick up a 17 inch notebook for less than a grand which features an i 5/7 and 4gb of RAM.

Some things are getting smaller and faster and cheaper but for making music I am yet to see anything that would make me go out and buy an Ipad for anything other than music storage .mp'3 and jpeg.
Creative make a 10 inch 16 gb Zii o for less than 400usd so there is your cheaper alternative other than giving more money to mister Jobs.
My 2 cents worth

Cheers

randyandyvandaman · Post by **randyandyvandaman** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:08 am

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penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:33 am

Bestest!

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:26 pm

randyandyvandaman wrote:Some things are getting smaller and faster and cheaper but for making music I am yet to see anything that would make me go out and buy an Ipad for anything other than music storage .mp'3 and jpeg.

It certainly depends on your needs and patience. If you want to record choirs or make big studio productions, the iPad is not siutable, but for basic needs within many electronic genres, the apps are getting better and better. The limitations WILL challenge your skills and creativity, but if you do not mind bounching tracks and sample-trigger them you can go far with apps like Nanostudio, Beatmaker II, and Aurora. The workflow is awful compared to a PC DAW, but it seems that people (including me)who use them find them more fun and inspiring due to the interactive options.

Anyway, here are some tracks from the Nanostudio forums

http://forums.blipinteractive.co.uk/node/85

Some of them have an impressive sound quality, even though there are no mastering options in Nanostudio (seem to be on their way in future updates though)

One thing I really like about these programs is that they try to achieve the most with so little CPU power as possibile instead of presupposing bigger and bigger computers. I have always thought that the latter is like peeing in your pants to stay warm -the complexity of programs presupposes more powerful computers and the developement of more powerful computers presupposes still more complex programs.

So, I double your bet and throw in 4 cents.

Dewaine · Post by **Dewaine** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:12 pm

As I have said other in another thread... I have had my iPad for amost a year now (bought April 3, 2010) and it has completely replace my laptop, netbook, ebook reader, and Nintendo DS. I sold all four of those devices within six months of ownership of the iPad. It does not however replace my desktop, which now I only use for music and photoshop.

An iPad can replace a laptop, it just depends on what you actually use your laptop for.

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:21 pm

The total cost isnt so clear, you have to buy all the apps you already have on the laptop over again. The same tactic the music industry uses to get you to change format, ie vinyl to CD, CD to DVDA, DVD to Bluray. And then you end up with what you had already

Resonator63 · Post by **Resonator63** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:21 pm

I don't think it has the power to replace a good laptop yet.
But great as a sketchpad(no pun intended).

I think as the ipad develops further and as the apps for it multiply and improve we could see a time when a laptop is no longer needed.
I think i'll give the ipad2 a miss for now.

But i'll be keeping a close eye on how it progresses

dhalfen · Post by **dhalfen** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:25 pm

The "beginning of the end," maybe, for the low-end laptops and/or "high-end" netbooks (cough-cough-choke

).

But, in terms of power and capabilities, the difference between an iPad 2 and a 2011 17" MacBook Pro, for example, is still North Pole/South Pole.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:01 pm

Edited. Misunderstood

monkeyweasel · Post by **monkeyweasel** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:41 pm

IncarnateX wrote:
UltraJv wrote:The total cost isnt so clear, you have to buy all the apps you already have on the laptop over again. The same tactic the music industry uses to get you to change format, ie vinyl to CD, CD to DVDA, DVD to Bluray. And then you end up with what you had already
Many apps you buy for the iPod/iPhone can be downloaded in iPad versions for free, so you only pay one time. If you try to buy and app you already have paid for, the app store ask you to download it for free, i.e. it will not even give you an opportunity to pay for again.

yes true, but what ultraJv actually said was that ud have to buy again the apps you already have on your laptop, dont think he was talking about moving over from the iphone or whatever, and nor was the OP.

as far as i'm aware though, the apps that will work on ipad are totally different to any of the ones you're likely to be using on you laptop anyway. i mean, as an example there's no Logic for ipad yet, right?

moutkie08 · Post by **moutkie08** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:36 pm

the good thing off all this technology advances (in this case ipad2) is that a today's 500 euros laptop is more than enough for me to make music for the rest of my life and to do my "computer life", i really don't feel the need for more.. now i only have to find 500 euros

! to better answer you question and cus the price for the ipad is the 500 euros too, i would buy the laptop.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:07 pm

monkeyweasel wrote:yes true, but what ultraJv actually said was that ud have to buy again the apps you already have on your laptop, dont think he was talking about moving over from the iphone or whatever

I see. Of course you will have to buy apps for the iPad anyway. Apps are very cheap BTW.

monkeyweasel wrote: and nor was the OP.

I am the OP, mate!

monkeyweasel wrote: as far as i'm aware though, the apps that will work on ipad are totally different to any of the ones you're likely to be using on you laptop anyway. i mean, as an example there's no Logic for ipad yet, right?

I am not so sure. Garageband will basically work as in the laptop version and Sound studios like Nanostudio and Beatmaker 2 do have the well known structure of laptop DAWS (e.g. blocks with pads or piano rolls) It is a question of quantity, not quality. However, there are some music apps that take advantage of the interactive control features that Laptops can not achieve.

iPad 2: The end of the laptop era?