KVR Audio

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:58 pm

just got this: https://market.android.com/details?id=de.humatic.tdaw
and it's very good. I wasn't sure about all these controller apps for NDS, i(*) and 'droids, but decided I'd go for it, and I'm glad I did.

there's a free version too, but it's worth the couple bux.

Now I need to try and find a way to use my phone the other direction - all the Bristol synths are popping up one by one

going to have to get a fleet of 'droids, one for each synth. haha (
well, it's ridiculous in a way using my phone as a synth, and yet it's really fun, so I guess that's the point.)

Proxima4 · Post by **Proxima4** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:07 pm

Arghh, I'm glad someones had a go with that.

I've just started researching, the whole touch pad scene, and wanted to know and up to date review.

A couple of questions if you don't mind.

Depending on the pad you choose (Spec) can you choose to use a LAN cable instead of the wireless conection, as there is no way, Live 8 (for me) is going to run smooth without drop outs, with a wirless conection on. With that in mind, if your pad had USB could you utilise this instead.?

What's your set up?

Cheers.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:51 pm

Hi Proxima4,

Unfortunately I just tried with the USB cable instead of Wifi and it doesn't work - it says, "please turn on WiFi".

I am not sure it maybe Bluetooth would work... I could try with my Slate maybe.

Here's an idea - if you have a Wifi router, try an ethernet cable to your DAW computer, and WiFi from your 'droid to your router?
I know that when I wire my main computer to the router that I can still share printers by wireless to the McBook pro, and all the others, so I bet that would work.

Note: I use the rtpMIDI driver http://www.humatic.de/htools/touchdaw/drivers.htm

Make sure to install Bonjour before you install that, if you are on Windows. On the McBook I didn't need it, although I had it already for printer sharing.

Looks like the Java one works with Ethernet, but you still have to get your phone onto the network...

Proxima4 wrote:Arghh, I'm glad someones had a go with that.

I've just started researching, the whole touch pad scene, and wanted to know and up to date review.

A couple of questions if you don't mind.

Depending on the pad you choose (Spec) can you choose to use a LAN cable instead of the wireless conection, as there is no way, Live 8 (for me) is going to run smooth without drop outs, with a wirless conection on. With that in mind, if your pad had USB could you utilise this instead.?

What's your set up?

Cheers.

Cealdk · Post by **Cealdk** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:16 pm

How did you do to get it to work. I got the paid version 2 days ago, and have been strugling with the setup since. I use Ableton Live

I seem like my computer and my phone can finde each other, but when i start Ableton there is no connetion to the phone

It would be really nice if you could make a "dummy setup" for me

Mc UB · Post by **Mc UB** » Sat May 07, 2011 10:37 pm

I have only recently discovered this app, but it is really a jewel in it's kind! To set up the connection between my tablet (Archos 70 Internet Tablet, 250 GB hehehe, beats any iPad

...) and my PC (Windows 7) was easy following the steps on the TouchDAW site. I used the rtpMidi driver as instructed. Within minutes I set it up, and saw by the latency indicator in rtpMidi that they found eachother.

Getting it to talk to FL Studio 10 was a bit more fiddling, but again: following the steps brought me there too. I did something wrong myself the first time, but redoing it properly and it worked. One time setup only too: when now I fire up TouchDAW first, then rtpMIDI, and then FL Studio everything works straight away now. Dunno about other sequences, but this works for me.

In TouchDAW's setting you can select the DAW you're working with, and selecting FL Studio makes it work for the FL Studio parameters beatifully. (@Cealdk: have you checked the settings and there the DAW settings? Set it to Ableton Live there too)

It's amazing how usefull my tablet now has become all of a sudden

I'm primarily using the TouchDAW view (1 channel view) mostly, and sometimes the 4-channel mixer strip for leveling of groups of instruments.

In the TouchDAW view, the channel on my tablet follows the one I activate in FL Studio, and i can also flick through the channels on my Tablet, reflecting back to FL Studio. Moving a fader with the mouse and it moves on my Tablet as well, and vice versa. Controlling the volume, solo, mute, pan and EQ of each channel through my Tablet works wayyyyyy better then with mouse and keyboard. It's a breath of fresh air to divert the mixer control form my keyboard/mouse to the tablet.

I also like the way the labels on TouchDAW dynamically change according to what set of controls you're selecting: channel/track, pan, EQ. And some setting are freely assignable to whatever knob I want in FL Studio (through FL's midi learn function: Tools>Last Tweaked>Link to controller, then just touch the control you want to use in TouchDAW).

The respons is near instant, so the latency is negligable. My connection to my wireless modem gives me 3 out of 5 bars (it's 10 meters away, and one floor down) but I have never sofar have had any connection difficulties or dropouts.

There's room for improvement though: I can't get the TouchDAW keyboard to talk to any of my instruments and I'm having difficulty to assign both X and Y of the XY pad to 2 seperate controls. But it could be I'm overlooking something here. I'm using it primarily for the 1 and 4 channel mixer strips though, and it does that beautifully.

Some time ago I was drewling over a hardware 1-channel controller, but it was way to expensive for me. TouchDAW does even more then the controller I was drewling about (forgot the name, sorry).

Now I work with FL Studio, an Oxygen 8 keyboard, and TouchDAW on my tablet. It makes it much easier to concentrate on the music in stead of operating the program. Now to sell tracks and buy hardware controllers

But seriously, this thing is wicked! Best Bang for my buck I ever had I think, hands down.

thirstyscholar · Post by **thirstyscholar** » Sat May 14, 2011 11:10 am

Mc UB wrote:I have only recently discovered this app, but it is really a jewel in it's kind! To set up the connection between my tablet (Archos 70 Internet Tablet, 250 GB hehehe, beats any iPad ...) and my PC (Windows 7) was easy following the steps on the TouchDAW site. I used the rtpMidi driver as instructed. Within minutes I set it up, and saw by the latency indicator in rtpMidi that they found eachother.

Getting it to talk to FL Studio 10 was a bit more fiddling, but again: following the steps brought me there too. I did something wrong myself the first time, but redoing it properly and it worked. One time setup only too: when now I fire up TouchDAW first, then rtpMIDI, and then FL Studio everything works straight away now. Dunno about other sequences, but this works for me.

In TouchDAW's setting you can select the DAW you're working with, and selecting FL Studio makes it work for the FL Studio parameters beatifully. (@Cealdk: have you checked the settings and there the DAW settings? Set it to Ableton Live there too)

It's amazing how usefull my tablet now has become all of a sudden I'm primarily using the TouchDAW view (1 channel view) mostly, and sometimes the 4-channel mixer strip for leveling of groups of instruments.

In the TouchDAW view, the channel on my tablet follows the one I activate in FL Studio, and i can also flick through the channels on my Tablet, reflecting back to FL Studio. Moving a fader with the mouse and it moves on my Tablet as well, and vice versa. Controlling the volume, solo, mute, pan and EQ of each channel through my Tablet works wayyyyyy better then with mouse and keyboard. It's a breath of fresh air to divert the mixer control form my keyboard/mouse to the tablet.

I also like the way the labels on TouchDAW dynamically change according to what set of controls you're selecting: channel/track, pan, EQ. And some setting are freely assignable to whatever knob I want in FL Studio (through FL's midi learn function: Tools>Last Tweaked>Link to controller, then just touch the control you want to use in TouchDAW).

The respons is near instant, so the latency is negligable. My connection to my wireless modem gives me 3 out of 5 bars (it's 10 meters away, and one floor down) but I have never sofar have had any connection difficulties or dropouts.

There's room for improvement though: I can't get the TouchDAW keyboard to talk to any of my instruments and I'm having difficulty to assign both X and Y of the XY pad to 2 seperate controls. But it could be I'm overlooking something here. I'm using it primarily for the 1 and 4 channel mixer strips though, and it does that beautifully.

Some time ago I was drewling over a hardware 1-channel controller, but it was way to expensive for me. TouchDAW does even more then the controller I was drewling about (forgot the name, sorry).

Now I work with FL Studio, an Oxygen 8 keyboard, and TouchDAW on my tablet. It makes it much easier to concentrate on the music in stead of operating the program. Now to sell tracks and buy hardware controllers But seriously, this thing is wicked! Best Bang for my buck I ever had I think, hands down.

Hi,
I've been trying to connect this to fl studio but am having trouble. It can't find the daw!
I've followed the rtp instructions and have the ethernet active in fl studio midi settings but still no luck.

Any help would be great, Tim

Mc UB · Post by **Mc UB** » Wed May 18, 2011 10:24 pm

Hi Tim,

Well, I'm certainly no expert on this, but I'll try!

- Did you check and include the last two or three numbers of your phone's IP-adress? My ip-adres ends on .67, so my connection ('Directory' in rtpMidi) would be called: tdaw (and.67) RTP 1 [NOTE: after switching my tablet on and off, my ip-adres changed, it now ends on .68, so I had to change that in rtpMidi, and it works again. To change it: doubleclick the tdaw (and.67) lines] You find the right IP-adres in Touchdaw settings>global settings>System info.

- Can the rtpMidi program find your phone/tablet? Check if in the program under 'participants' the text is black, not greyed out, and there is a number (not 0) under 'Latency'.

- Did you also install Bonjour? You don't have to use it, it just needs to be there.

- Did you check the port numbers in rtpMidi? RTP 1 should use 6504, and RTP 2 6506. Session 1 should be on 5004, session 2 on 5006. So that gives 5004 with 6504, and 5006 with 6506.

If this all checks out, at least rtpMidi and your phone are having a conversation. Although the touchDAW site uses only RTP 1 in the manual, and I do too in my settings on tablet and in FL, I did also set up the RTP 2 connection in rtpMidi. It too talks to the tablet (I see latency). I don't use the RTP 2 in the FL settings or the Touchdaw settings, but it is there and active. Dunno if that helps, but it works for me.

- Do you use one session (RTP 1 or RTP 2, I use RTP 1) for both the midi-in and midi-out in the FL settings? Out on port 102, and in configured as Macky Control? I use RTP 1 for both. But I do have set up RTP 2 as 'sync' in the Midi-out section of FL. It's not in the manual, and again, dunno much about it, but it works, so I'm not complaining.

- Have you set up the same connection in the TouchDAW settings? Under DAW controller options, are the same ones set up as Midi-in and Midi-out? (if you use RTP 1 in FL settings, use this one in TouchDAW too)

- Have you checked 'Auto-initialize' in the same settings? And (duh..) selected FL Studio as the sequencer?

If rtpMidi sees the phone, FL sees the rtpMidi sessions, and both phone and Touchdaw use the same session, all should work well... If not, check it again, maybe you overlooked something. Or use the other session. You could also try to switch off (only shortly of course) your firewall to see if it will work then. If that is not the case, the right ports are probably not opened in your firewall.

Your phone/tablet's ip-adres might change when you turn it off and on, but if that happens you'll know, because rtpMidi cannot connect anymore and says so by popups. It's a local ip-adres, it can do that.

I fire up in this order: First TouchDAW, then rtpMidi, and when they connect then FL Studio.

How do you see that TouchDAW cannot find FL? In the main one-channel view just below Ch1? When it reads NC it says it's not connected, When it says FL studio... well.. you get the point. Did you open up the mixer in FL and tried it out? Try it on Touchdaw and see if a fader in FL moves.

Ok, that's about what I can think of now. Hope it helps!

greetz, Frank

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:59 am

I got the free version on my phone today. had it working with cubase within 10 minutes. I will now have to buy a cheap assed tablet for this. I found one for 170 10 inch wifi only. so for 175 bucks I'll have a nice touchscreen controller for my rig.

PlasticSoul · Post by **PlasticSoul** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:07 am

I used touchdaw for android. It works great!
Only ipmidi install was needed.

TouchDAW for Android