What is this guitar chord?

[neueliteratur]

Hi,

I wanted to know what chords were being played in RHCP's Behing the Sun, so I looked at a tab.

It says:

7
7
7
6
7
x

and

9
9
9
7
x
x

The first one is evident, it's a E9.

But I'd like to ask you guys what you call the second one.

G#dim(11)?

I often add 11 when I play dim or half-dim on the piano, is it also what guitarists often do?

[djaeke]

That's just an Amaj7. The third (the C#) is on top and the major seventh is just below that.

[neueliteratur]

Stupid me. I always confuse the D string and G string.

But still, can anyone tell me if it's rare for guitarists to add 11 when playing dim or half-dim?

[djaeke]

But still, can anyone tell me if it's rare for guitarists to add 11 when playing dim or half-dim?

I am having a bit of trouble finding many feasible fingerings for such a chord. I resorted to my usually very complete chord dictionary, selected a dim chord, and the option to add 11 was in fact grayed out.

Theoretically, any dimadd11 chord played on guitar could probably be interpreted as some other, much simpler chord. I defy someone to find a guitar chord that is almost exclusively dimadd11.

[neueliteratur]

But still, can anyone tell me if it's rare for guitarists to add 11 when playing dim or half-dim?

I am having a bit of trouble finding many feasible fingerings for such a chord. I resorted to my usually very complete chord dictionary, selected a dim chord, and the option to add 11 was in fact grayed out.

Theoretically, any dimadd11 chord played on guitar could probably be interpreted as some other, much simpler chord. I defy someone to find a guitar chord that is almost exclusively dimadd11.

OK, thanks for your help.

[tapper mike]

Every chord holds the possibiltiy of being another chord.

G dim add 11
omit the third and you have...
G - C# - E - C
or a A7#9 inversion no root.

[neueliteratur]

But still, can anyone tell me if it's rare for guitarists to add 11 when playing dim or half-dim?

I am having a bit of trouble finding many feasible fingerings for such a chord. I resorted to my usually very complete chord dictionary, selected a dim chord, and the option to add 11 was in fact grayed out.

Theoretically, any dimadd11 chord played on guitar could probably be interpreted as some other, much simpler chord. I defy someone to find a guitar chord that is almost exclusively dimadd11.

OK, thanks for your help.

Sorry, I made another mistake!

What I wanted to say was, not add 11 but, replacing the 3rd with the 11th.

[tapper mike]

I would be feasible but not practical
C F# A F
Cdim11
1 - F
x
2 - A
4 - F#
3 - C
x

[neueliteratur]

I would be feasible but not practical
C F# A F
Cdim11
1 - F
x
2 - A
4 - F#
3 - C
x

All right. Thanks.

[neueliteratur]

Another question,



at first he is doing Dm G7 C F7 Bb E7 A.

But then from 03:03 on, he is playing weird chords instead of the secondary dominants.

Do you know what those chords are called?

[tapper mike]

He plays,,,,
An Am then a F#dim(or if you prefer an F#/Am spelled F#-C-A-C) then a Gmaj7
(G-B-F#) the odd one is a Gm6(G-Bb-E) before the last chord which is an F

He has odd voicings to me. A jazz guitarist wouldn't play those chords like that. On a jazz guitar they would sound to muddy.

[neueliteratur]

Ah, I thought I knew how secondary dominants without the bass sounded like, but just because it was a guitar and not a piano, I didn't recognize it.

[jancivil]

an 11th over a min7b5 is not an at all unusual voicing for guitar (min7b5 is considered in 'harmony class' as a 'half-diminished 7' chord, a dim. triad with a minor 7th).

but, often enough that 11 is in place of the third of the chord as if a suspension like a 4-3.

(from bass upwards) E Bb D A, the A could move to G.
tabbed:
(x)
10 - 8
7
8
7
x

as a ii chord, key of D minor, moving to tonic:

E Bb D, w. A down to G in the top voice;
Eb A C#, w. G down to F in the top voice;
D (A) C F


note that the ii7b5 chord moved in parallel a half step down produces the V7b5 chord, showing equivalence.

in a case where the 11th isn't in lieu of or moving directly to the 10th or 3rd, it might voice like so:
{incl tabbed}:
3 - G
3 - D
2 - A
2 - E
1 - Bb
(O - E)
In fourths.