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DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:33 pm

I got a 16GB iPad, and I have used up every last bit of storage space on this thing. I am constantly deleting apps to make room for other apps. Ideally, what I'd like to do is have a "Playlist" that has some of my apps on it and another "Playlist" to have a different group of apps. I'd like to make sure I can save the additional content like save games for games and such as well. Is there an easy way to do this with iTunes? Is there a different application that does this better? I remember looking at MediaMonkey for music files, but nothing more.

Suggestions? Point me at an article that shows some ways to work with over 14GB worth of apps with having less than 14 GB of space on this thing? I've been doing Google searches to try to find something, but coming up empty handed. My Google-Foo is not with me...

Devon

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:40 pm

Suggestions for managing apps on an iPad

A hammer?

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:13 am

DevonB wrote:I am constantly deleting apps to make room for other apps.

I would keep deleting according to priorities. You must have a good deal of apps. I have 32 apps but only use about 6 GB of space, so I do wonder how much you have downloaded and how neccesary it is for you to make music? Or is it because you also have games, video and music content?

However I will advice you to watch out with the Sonoma copy-and-paste system because it can take a lot of space without notice. Thus, it has 12 paste slots that can not be deleted but only replaced if you fill them out with content. So if you paste, say, a 100 MB tune between different apps, it will fill out the slots until you reach 12 x 100 MB = 1,2 GB. And currently there is no way to delete it again but only to fill the slots with other audio files, for instance 12 x a bassdrum kick that does not take as much space as a finished tune i wav format.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:24 am

I actually have like 270+ apps. Currently on the iPad I have 179 apps or so. Yes, it's a lot of games. I love the BigFish games which typically are 500megs to 900megs apiece, and I pretty much have them all. So bye bye to all my space. I keep no music or videos because I refuse to get into the DRM of my own media (if I'm going to buy music or movies, I should be able to watch it wherever I want, regardless if it's an Apple device or not.)

Anywho, can you do a Playlist with apps? So I select one playlist and it has all my games on it, then I have anohter playlist with all my music stuff on it, and when I synch them, it'll remove off the games and put all the music, and vice versa? You can do this with music, but iTunes is less than intuitive. IF it's possible, I'll keep hacking away at it, but I find iTunes to be quite clunky and frustrating for apps.

Devon

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:08 pm

Ha, IncarnateX, I was just reading the FL thread and saw you recommended iPhoneExplorer. That would be PERFECT to help manage the files on the iPad! I'm going to check it out tonight! Woohoo! I think this will be my answer to getting stuff on and off my iPad easier. Thanks!

Devon

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:12 pm

I just got a 64 GB one but wondered if this thread was about organising apps on the "desktop" because that is my biggest gripe at the moment - I thought it could multi task but I can't see an easy way to switch between open apps (like alt tab on Windows) or see them side by side (or even close threads/apps that are running in the background for that matter - no task manager either?).

steveyt · Post by **steveyt** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:20 pm

aMUSEd wrote:I just got a 64 GB one but wondered if this thread was about organising apps on the "desktop" because that is my biggest gripe at the moment - I thought it could multi task but I can't see an easy way to switch between open apps (like alt tab on Windows) or see them side by side (or even close threads/apps that are running in the background for that matter - no task manager either?).

Double-click the home button to see open apps - you can close them there also.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:19 pm

steveyt wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:I just got a 64 GB one but wondered if this thread was about organising apps on the "desktop" because that is my biggest gripe at the moment - I thought it could multi task but I can't see an easy way to switch between open apps (like alt tab on Windows) or see them side by side (or even close threads/apps that are running in the background for that matter - no task manager either?).
Double-click the home button to see open apps - you can close them there also.

Cool thanks - suppose I should rtfm

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:30 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
steveyt wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:I just got a 64 GB one but wondered if this thread was about organising apps on the "desktop" because that is my biggest gripe at the moment - I thought it could multi task but I can't see an easy way to switch between open apps (like alt tab on Windows) or see them side by side (or even close threads/apps that are running in the background for that matter - no task manager either?).
Double-click the home button to see open apps - you can close them there also.
Cool thanks - suppose I should rtfm

hmm just tried that - it seems to be displaying pretty much every app I've opened in the last day or two - is it just a history or is it actually keeping them all open in the background even though I thought I'd closed them? If I hold one of the icons I get a delete button - is that how you close them?

steveyt · Post by **steveyt** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:41 pm

I think they're all open. So in fact, the delete thing is the only way to close an app. Not sure, but I think they even stay open after a restart. Supposedly does 'intelligent' multitasking (debatable). TouchOSC is a pain because for me it needs closing and re-opening for the midi to work after switching between apps.

Whoomph · Post by **Whoomph** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:43 pm

Pressing the home button twice brings up all the apps that are presently 'open',and yes touching the little x closes them. I don't have an ipad and am guessing that they're the same as iphone.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:07 pm

steveyt wrote:I think they're all open. So in fact, the delete thing is the only way to close an app. Not sure, but I think they even stay open after a restart. Supposedly does 'intelligent' multitasking (debatable). TouchOSC is a pain because for me it needs closing and re-opening for the midi to work after switching between apps.

Thanks - not a very efficient system - closed should mean closed

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:58 pm

DevonB wrote:Ha, IncarnateX, I was just reading the FL thread and saw you recommended iPhoneExplorer. That would be PERFECT to help manage the files on the iPad! I'm going to check it out tonight! Woohoo! I think this will be my answer to getting stuff on and off my iPad easier. Thanks!

Devon

Cool. Glad I could help..indirectly at least.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:58 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
steveyt wrote:I think they're all open. So in fact, the delete thing is the only way to close an app. Not sure, but I think they even stay open after a restart. Supposedly does 'intelligent' multitasking (debatable). TouchOSC is a pain because for me it needs closing and re-opening for the midi to work after switching between apps.
Thanks - not a very efficient system - closed should mean closed

Dude, there is no 'close' on an iPhone/iPad app. I thought it was very weird that there was no 'exit' on any app; they are all that way. Oh well. In case you haven't figured out, double click on the home button to show all open apps, then hold down on an app for 2+ seconds, it'll wiggle and have a - in the corner. Click on the - to close it. Careful, this closes apps off the open task bar. If you do that on the 'desktop' and click the X, that'll actually delete the app off your iPad.

Soft and hard off (hold the switch on the side is a soft off, hold home and side button for 4+ seconds for a hard reset) will NOT clear out the apps that are loaded. The only way that I have found to actually really 'clear' out active memory is to use an app that'll clean memory out. Was just going through this a few days ago actually.

Devon

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:24 am

DevonB wrote: Dude, there is no 'close' on an iPhone/iPad app.

The idea is that the OS manages this for you. All apps are kept in a "background" state so they fire up quickly. When memory gets tight they are sent additional memory warnings that they free as much memory as they can for other apps. When memory gets really tight the OS starts actually terminating them. This should mean that the foreground app always gets as much memory as it needs without users having to manually kill apps.