Just wondering what is the best time base to start my projects in. I have a choice in Studio One of:
Bars
Seconds
Frames
Samples
My music tends to be without beats and non repetitive with non traditional structure and some improvisational and chance aspects so I'm thinking seconds is the best representation of time for my projects but was wondering what the purpose was of the others (except for bars which is obvious)
Project time base
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- KVRAF
- 37409 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
my music is also not going to adhere to usual forms. I tend to start off in time code, frames and subframes. it's [SMPTE] a paradigm from the motion picture industry, and with actual film there is a code applied to the film itself for synch purposes. even when I'm working with bars/beats I have a time display in the project window, I'm just used to looking for a moment according to what time it is. especially if it's a list editor. I don't quantize or snap things, and I use a resolution of 4000 ppqn, so with bars/beats it's a lot of numbers, too much information in a list.
in Cubase, the project window's timeline isn't real different using time code vs seconds, but in editors there's more resolution to refer to, 'frames/subframes'. I like the way it looks and I'm accustomed to it, which is a good thing as I'm interested in scoring to picture and have done a little work in the field now.
I usually do at some point define where bars are, sometimes in the beginning when that is an obvious framework, but often I begin with improvisation and barlines are a distraction and a level of thought that isn't useful to me at that stage. Cubase is great for this as you can warp the timeline to fit the music, in time base the midi does not move, the barlines are shifted to conform to the music.
in Cubase, the project window's timeline isn't real different using time code vs seconds, but in editors there's more resolution to refer to, 'frames/subframes'. I like the way it looks and I'm accustomed to it, which is a good thing as I'm interested in scoring to picture and have done a little work in the field now.
I usually do at some point define where bars are, sometimes in the beginning when that is an obvious framework, but often I begin with improvisation and barlines are a distraction and a level of thought that isn't useful to me at that stage. Cubase is great for this as you can warp the timeline to fit the music, in time base the midi does not move, the barlines are shifted to conform to the music.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 37409 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Yes exactly - it does the same to my creative flow - that was one reason I never took to Orion with its requirement to set the length of bars in advance.jancivil wrote:I usually do at some point define where bars are, sometimes in the beginning when that is an obvious framework, but often I begin with improvisation and barlines are a distraction and a level of thought that isn't useful to me at that stage.