Kairatune, new synth released
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
I solved polyphony
Well, to be honest, Piz did
http://www.thepiz.org/plugins/
First take the one called midiPolyphony and rout it to three different midiChannelFilter. Set midiPolyphony low channel to 1 and high channel to 3. Set one midichannelfilter to 1, the next to 2 and the last one to .. you guess it
Route these to one instance of kairatune each
Poly!
I use energyXT where you have modular routing but i think it should be doable in several hosts
It's hard to program a sound in mono mode and have it working for poly .. very easy it becomes too heavy in the mid frequencies
It was a fun thing to try out, but i think ill stick to monomode. If not only for the reasons mentioned in a few threads above
Well, to be honest, Piz did
http://www.thepiz.org/plugins/
First take the one called midiPolyphony and rout it to three different midiChannelFilter. Set midiPolyphony low channel to 1 and high channel to 3. Set one midichannelfilter to 1, the next to 2 and the last one to .. you guess it
Route these to one instance of kairatune each
Poly!
I use energyXT where you have modular routing but i think it should be doable in several hosts
It's hard to program a sound in mono mode and have it working for poly .. very easy it becomes too heavy in the mid frequencies
It was a fun thing to try out, but i think ill stick to monomode. If not only for the reasons mentioned in a few threads above
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 290 posts since 20 Jul, 2009 from Helsinki, Finland
Wow! That's the spirit. Hats off!
I doubt that Kairatune would ever sound as good in polyphony as one might imagine. Somehow i personally have a totally different feeling for polyphonic sounds. If i ever was to design a polyphonic synth i guess i would go to a totally different direction - i don't want it loud, i wan't it mellow.
I doubt that Kairatune would ever sound as good in polyphony as one might imagine. Somehow i personally have a totally different feeling for polyphonic sounds. If i ever was to design a polyphonic synth i guess i would go to a totally different direction - i don't want it loud, i wan't it mellow.
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- KVRist
- 466 posts since 31 Jan, 2010
Your synth can do mellow, so don't try to find excusesmfa wrote:Wow! That's the spirit. Hats off!
I doubt that Kairatune would ever sound as good in polyphony as one might imagine. Somehow i personally have a totally different feeling for polyphonic sounds. If i ever was to design a polyphonic synth i guess i would go to a totally different direction - i don't want it loud, i wan't it mellow.
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- KVRAF
- 2802 posts since 31 Aug, 2011
Actually, neither am i.ENV1 wrote:+ The Q params of the EQ seem to be offline. (No effect whatsoever.)mfa wrote:This i'm not able to duplicate.
(My mistake...please dont ask.)
Thats really too bad. With the drive at 30 you can clearly hear that certain 'modded 303' kind of sound, its just that it is so horribly suppressed/crushed that it would never be usable. Truly a shame. This would be such a cool sound source.mfa wrote:It sounds so bad that one instinctively thinks that there's something broken. But there isn't. It just doesn't work like that.
BTW, speaking of old classics, did you know that Kaira does a pretty good CS-80 too? Soundquality-wise it beats the hell out of certain 'other' so-called CS-80 emulations, (not mentioning any names), and that even though Kaira was never even meant to be a CS-80 emu. Although, theres a little bit of OB-X in there too. Check this out:
http://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=lis ... order=date
I think you would agree that the ability to adjust the detune amount (or better said its amplitude peaks) would be veeeery useful in this case. While still absolutely usable for playing short/semi-short notes, (which is of course the main thing), held notes become somewhat problematic since the whole thing gets a little too squashed at the peaks...
- KVRAF
- 7893 posts since 12 Feb, 2006 from Helsinki, Finland
Is it intentional that the lowpass filter has less and less resonance towards the high frequencies? What I mean is, if I set resonance to max and sweep the filter, it starts losing resonance above about samplerate/10 or so, and becomes more or less flat at around twice that (maybe a bit higher but anyway, no resonance at very high cutoffs).
- KVRAF
- 7893 posts since 12 Feb, 2006 from Helsinki, Finland
Yeah, but I don't wanna hi-jack this thread.zeep wrote:I don't get that either.
Btw Mystran, any new plugins in the making? I'm always checking your website for news..
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
Man, a quick heads up: While reading through this thread I was in auto-nod-mode listening over and over to that nice demo tune on your website! Somehow at first I still expected somebody to yell something like "stire farter!"
Very nice.
Very nice.
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- KVRist
- 466 posts since 31 Jan, 2010
Isn't that normal in most synths? Filter resonance is used to emphasize the amplitude of the frequencies at (and close to) the cutoff frequency. Higher frequency = less resonance you will hear... but you can also make the sound resonant to a point where the filter will start to self-oscillate (if filter and res are "high quality"/using good algos).mystran wrote:Is it intentional that the lowpass filter has less and less resonance towards the high frequencies? What I mean is, if I set resonance to max and sweep the filter, it starts losing resonance above about samplerate/10 or so, and becomes more or less flat at around twice that (maybe a bit higher but anyway, no resonance at very high cutoffs).
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 290 posts since 20 Jul, 2009 from Helsinki, Finland
Hello mystran!mystran wrote:Is it intentional that the lowpass filter has less and less resonance towards the high frequencies? What I mean is, if I set resonance to max and sweep the filter, it starts losing resonance above about samplerate/10 or so, and becomes more or less flat at around twice that (maybe a bit higher but anyway, no resonance at very high cutoffs).
To begin with, i have to thank you for all your advice on the devs' forum! There's a good bit of mystran in this synth.
The resonance roll-off is absolutely intentional. I think it sounds great - musically. It's required for stability too. The filter goes increasingly unstable with high resonance as the cutoff goes up.
Now, before this thread goes all math and DSP, i'd suggest we continue on the gory details of filters on the devs' forum.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 290 posts since 20 Jul, 2009 from Helsinki, Finland
Oh yes, that's a very good and massive synth sound. I never tried a CS-80, but it's the Blade Runner synth right? A true classic!ENV1 wrote:BTW, speaking of old classics, did you know that Kaira does a pretty good CS-80 too? Soundquality-wise it beats the hell out of certain 'other' so-called CS-80 emulations, (not mentioning any names), and that even though Kaira was never even meant to be a CS-80 emu. Although, theres a little bit of OB-X in there too. Check this out:
http://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=lis ... order=date
Yes that's true.I think you would agree that the ability to adjust the detune amount (or better said its amplitude peaks) would be veeeery useful in this case. While still absolutely usable for playing short/semi-short notes, (which is of course the main thing), held notes become somewhat problematic since the whole thing gets a little too squashed at the peaks...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 290 posts since 20 Jul, 2009 from Helsinki, Finland
zorniko wrote:Your synth can do mellow, so don't try to find excuses
I like it! And it's pretty mellow. Holding one of these down for long time, really makes you want it to just go on and on, but then it kind of dies. Great preset, thanks! Just have to live with it lasting only the few seconds it does.