Load New sounds from VSTi with Subsession

[DarkKman]

Hi,

I'm trialling Cantabile and Forte at the moment and its pretty much a toss-up right now.

I really like the Media Player (as one of my priority needs is backing tracks) - I simply load up all the files for a set I need then Mute those I don't need and switch using sub-sessions.

What I also need to do is switch instrument banks/programs for different songs too. I use the same VSTi but just different programs throughout a set but don't want to load up loads of instances and switch bypass through each one - doesn't seem very efficient. I tried creating a subsession with one preset sound then another subsession with another preset however switching subsessions doesn't change the preset back etc.

I know you should be able to be able to use saved programs however for some reason the VSTi I am using doesn't allow it and shows up under 'Program' as 1<disabled>.

Am I missing something here? What is the way to do this without loading several instances of the same VSTi?

With Forte for example you just save a scene with one sound, change the sound preset and save another scene. When you switch scenes the program is recalled. Is there a way to do the same thing?

Thanks in advance.

[TiUser]

Changing Patches with sub session should work.

Cantabile Performer allows you to control subsession behavior.

Right click on the plugin name, then go to "Sub-session behavior" and check the options there.

Make sure that "selected program" is checked.

For plugins that do not support banks with multiple patches - in other words a bank is just one patch - you can use the "load entire bank" option to change the "patch" of such a plugin.

Hope this helps to figure out your problem.

[DarkKman]

Hey there... Thanks for the response!

Right click on the plugin name, then go to "Sub-session behavior" and check the options there.

Make sure that "selected program" is checked.

Checked this with NI Absynth and "selected program" was checked but still no joy. I tried this with a couple of other NI synths and get the same result - i.e. Program reads as <1 disabled>. Maybe this is a feature of NI Instruments? Others, like Atmosphere, works fine.

For plugins that do not support banks with multiple patches - in other words a bank is just one patch - you can use the "load entire bank" option to change the "patch" of such a plugin.

Woohoo...!!! This worked!!! Just what I need - thank you for pointing me to this feature!

Cantabile Solo/Performer allows you to control subsession behavior.

Not sure that Solo allows this. From Sub-session page on website http://www.cantabilesoftware.com/features/subsessions:

Sub-sessions are available Cantabile Performer edition only.

And I confirmed this by installing the Solo (Trial version) - a shame.

Great tool though - still trying it out and will be back if I have any questions. 25 days left

Thanks for all your help! Tatty-bye for now

[TiUser]

Glad to help

Right - Solo has no sub sessions, I sometimes forget this...

"load entire bank" is a great option... helps with plugins that have internal sound browsers but no standard vst banks.

Have fun and happy testing