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ferdik · Post by **ferdik** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:52 pm

I like to program beats myself instead of using loops because I instant get the groove I'm looking for.

Drawback is the beat sounds to clean! Effects like dist, bit cruscher won't create the right "loop feeling".

What to use to really make the groove sing, I'm not looking to over do it, just add something making it more alive. Tip please!

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:00 pm

Funny, I was going to say distortion and bit crushing. Combine that with smart EQing, maybe some reverb, compression ...what else do you need?

You of course need to know what you're doing with these tools, there is no magic plug dirtifier (well.... maybe Camelphat).

JD Gaffe · Post by **JD Gaffe** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:14 pm

Try looking up vinyl noise effects. I think Ableton comes with one if I recall correctly.

phazedown · Post by **phazedown** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:17 pm

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Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:20 pm

use a loop and replace its sounds with your own samples (assuming you can get the midi from the original loop)

lots of stuff to do that with, search drum replacer etc

bigdaveo11 · Post by **bigdaveo11** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:38 am

could you elaborate on the term "ghost notes" ??? Thanks!

phazedown · Post by **phazedown** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:17 am

delete-me

Loki Fuego · Post by **Loki Fuego** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:44 am

bigdaveo11 wrote:could you elaborate on the term "ghost notes" ??? Thanks!

Ghost note is a quite drum hit which plays in between the beats.

Like in this snare pattern, where small 'x' denotes ghost hit (16th notes):
---- X--- ---- X--- ---- X--- --x- X---

hailduong · Post by **hailduong** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:24 am

Some tips:

- Try new sounds, new chords, new style.
- Listen to your favorite beats, also not favorite beats.
- Write your lyrics first.
- Play an instrument and notice which section you like most.

Loki Fuego · Post by **Loki Fuego** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:09 am

New chords? When making beats?
I think I should try new chord progression for my kick.

james_mcfadyen · Post by **james_mcfadyen** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:12 am

I love adding a bit of Tube distortion/compression on hats. I find daTube to work quite well.

cron · Post by **cron** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:14 am

Try layering a bit of noise underneath. This gets interesting once you bus your drums and the noise to a single channel and start applying effects like distortion and compression. You could even (gently) sidechain the noise to your drums if you're feeling cheeky.

bobbybland · Post by **bobbybland** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:22 am

or just find some old vinyl and sample the drums then use them in your productions, nothing beats the real thing,trust me!

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:36 am

Cut pops and clicks out of a vinyl noise sample and add randomly here and there to taste.

Nig · Post by **Nig** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:02 pm

Soundtoys Decapitator does the job very nicely for me.

I've resisted demoing Saturn up to now but after hearing a lot of good comments on it I think I may have to check it out.

Effects to make beats more dirty?