KVR Audio

diijay · Post by **diijay** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:17 am

Guys, I was wondering the minimum computer set up and which would be the best sequencer(Ableton or Traktor) that could handle with it's internal plug ins live processing with vocals, guitar and synth. Direct Monitoring.

Plugins needed per track: At least EQ and Compressor

Is there anyone here that could do this without dsp?

Thanks.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:50 am

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:22 am

For less money than a laptop + multichannel interface would cost you could buy a second-hand Yamaha 01V96 digital mixing console. Near-zero latency, compression / limiting + 4-band parametric eq on all channels. All neatly packed in a small 19" box, less hassle to set up. Built for the purpose. Can be controlled through midi if you want your sequencer to handle that.

NB: for live gigs I don't like to use limiters & compressors. It's just not nescessary and it sounds odd live.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:21 pm

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:29 pm

diijay wrote:which would be the best sequencer(Ableton or Traktor) that could handle with it's internal plug ins live processing with vocals, guitar and synth. Direct Monitoring.

Traktor is a DJ program, NOT a sequencer. Direct monitoring will depend on your audio interface ... Live can do what you're asking, no problem.

diijay · Post by **diijay** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:02 pm

Guys, I am trying to do this with software only, I don't have any hardware.
nor the musicians.

Just trying to find out if it is possible.

I will need at least 1 eq and 1 compressor per track, vocals would need more effects.

I know live can do it in theory, but adds a lot of latency with the plugins per track and it has compensation per track and global, but does it work perfect for situations like this?

How powerful the CPU must be and how much ram is enough?

Does the soundcard has a big role on that setup to make it work? Without dsp, like motu 828 mk3 or UAD stuff.

Traktor has inputs so, in theory it could be used this way as well.

Just trying to understand what would be needed for that to work.

4 tracks:

1)Vocal
2)Guitar
3)Juno 6
4)Previously made Electronic beats with bass and some strings/pads

Again I am trying to do with software(without dsp),a laptop and soundcard only.

In case this is not possible, what about using a soundcard with dsp plugins like a MOTU 828 mk3, does anyone tried that before?

Thanks.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:35 pm

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:50 pm

DAWs add latency. Compensation is not possible in live situations, since time travel has not yet been implemented.

Use hardware instead of software. It's build for that.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:07 pm

diijay · Post by **diijay** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:33 pm

BertKoor wrote:DAWs add latency. Compensation is not possible in live situations, since time travel has not yet been implemented.

Use hardware instead of software. It's build for that.

Thanks Bertkoor,

What if I use a soundcard with dsp plugins like motu 828 mk3?

http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/ ... mmary.html

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:43 pm

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:10 pm

That MOTU unit is just like a Yamaha 01V96, but without the easy hands-on controls

Digital mixers offer the same DSP effects.
Seriously, if you want a mixer then why don't you get a mixer.
Sounds like you currently have a hammer so all screws look like nails to you.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:23 pm

Was wondering how you're planning to get vocals, guitar and synth into your DAW without a mixer tbh.

[edit] I see you're considering a MOTU 828mk3. Isn't that slight overkill?[/edit]

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:34 pm

diijay · Post by **diijay** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:14 pm

Thanks guys,

I would like to use what I already have: motu 828 mk3 with dsp efx, audio8,ableton live and traktor.

Is that possible?

How?

Thanks.

Live P.A, with vocals, guitar, synth, Set Up