Any tricks to get Massive sound less digital?
I think choice of compressor effects, or something similar.
Any tricks to get Massive sound less digital?
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- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
Set to ultra mode, cut the highs, put a analogue emulated compressor after this, play with the filter cut-off and decrease resonance.
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- 90 posts since 12 Sep, 2011
Do you know any good vst plugins analogue emulated compressor?4damind wrote:Set to ultra mode, cut the highs, put a analogue emulated compressor after this, play with the filter cut-off and decrease resonance.
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- KVRAF
- 5524 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286 - KVRAF
- 16742 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
I always thought the only reason to get Massive is to have a digital sounding synth in one's arsenal.
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- KVRAF
- 5524 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony
Yea, Massive sounds, well, massively digital to me.
It also sounds very, very much like Massive, and it's kind of unique. But I suppose if its one of the few synths you have, you might be groping for ways to get more out of it.
It also sounds very, very much like Massive, and it's kind of unique. But I suppose if its one of the few synths you have, you might be groping for ways to get more out of it.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
If you want it to sound analog, use it like an analog synth: use only basic waveforms with no wave scanning, slightly detune them from each other, and ever-so-slightly modulate the frequency with an lfo to add a bit of instability. Only use one filter, or perhaps configured as lowpass and highpass. Simple ADSR envelopes. Keep the effects to a minimum. Maybe a touch of distortion?
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- KVRian
- 1084 posts since 7 Jan, 2008 from Finland
and i get something analog feel for another synth when i used Logic Amp designer similar things maybe work also for this.deastman wrote:If you want it to sound analog, use it like an analog synth: use only basic waveforms with no wave scanning, slightly detune them from each other, and ever-so-slightly modulate the frequency with an lfo to add a bit of instability. Only use one filter, or perhaps configured as lowpass and highpass. Simple ADSR envelopes. Keep the effects to a minimum. Maybe a touch of distortion?
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- KVRAF
- 1624 posts since 14 Sep, 2007 from www.koeln.de/en/
Sounding digital is what I like about Massive.
However, you could also use a Tape Emulation like Ferric or Reel Bus to give some 'analogue warmth' to Massive.
However, you could also use a Tape Emulation like Ferric or Reel Bus to give some 'analogue warmth' to Massive.
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afreshcupofjoe afreshcupofjoe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=94815
- KVRAF
- 1838 posts since 17 Jan, 2006 from Portland, OR
Basically what I was going to say. Massive is good at modern, digital, highly processed sounds. Sure, it can pull off some more analog style sounds with some effort, but why go through the trouble when there are dozens of synths out there (even free ones) that do a much better job?Sampleconstruct wrote:I always thought the only reason to get Massive is to have a digital sounding synth in one's arsenal.
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- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRist
- 355 posts since 24 Oct, 2007 from the bavarian badlands
Run Massive in Ultra mode + ValhallaÜbermod. 
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- KVRAF
- 2323 posts since 2 Feb, 2009 from Germany
How to "let Massive didn't sounding digital":
- use only saw/tri/sine & squ waveforms
- very light detuning on each osc with different range by a tri/sin lfo
- use the amp noise as subtile background soundlayer
- don't use phase offset's through the mod-osc
- don't use blend/spectrum option in the osc's
- prefer to use the daft filter instead of the lowpass, sounds just a little bit more charming
- use a very small amount of glide with smooth attack on the parameter
- trim the soundpicture with the eq till it sounds in your ears more analog as before
- use the brauner tube instead of tele or classic, the brauner will effect more the deeper frequencies
Additional for maybe more liveness in the sound
- lfo on cutoff, reso with a very low modulation amount
- velocity as mod-source for cutoff
Anyway, Massive is an awesome synth and it's pretty clear that his concept isn't to be an analog wonder. The strength of massive are complex soundscapes, wild bass and synthsounds, that's why so many edm or dubstep musicans using it as main weapon.
If you looking for one very close analog-like sounding synth, try U-He Tyrell(freeware)
- use only saw/tri/sine & squ waveforms
- very light detuning on each osc with different range by a tri/sin lfo
- use the amp noise as subtile background soundlayer
- don't use phase offset's through the mod-osc
- don't use blend/spectrum option in the osc's
- prefer to use the daft filter instead of the lowpass, sounds just a little bit more charming
- use a very small amount of glide with smooth attack on the parameter
- trim the soundpicture with the eq till it sounds in your ears more analog as before
- use the brauner tube instead of tele or classic, the brauner will effect more the deeper frequencies
Additional for maybe more liveness in the sound
- lfo on cutoff, reso with a very low modulation amount
- velocity as mod-source for cutoff
Anyway, Massive is an awesome synth and it's pretty clear that his concept isn't to be an analog wonder. The strength of massive are complex soundscapes, wild bass and synthsounds, that's why so many edm or dubstep musicans using it as main weapon.
If you looking for one very close analog-like sounding synth, try U-He Tyrell(freeware)
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- KVRAF
- 4329 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Those are great tips.Cyforce wrote:How to "let Massive didn't sounding digital":
- use only saw/tri/sine & squ waveforms
- very light detuning on each osc with different range by a tri/sin lfo
- use the amp noise as subtile background soundlayer
- don't use phase offset's through the mod-osc
- don't use blend/spectrum option in the osc's
- prefer to use the daft filter instead of the lowpass, sounds just a little bit more charming
- use a very small amount of glide with smooth attack on the parameter
- trim the soundpicture with the eq till it sounds in your ears more analog as before
- use the brauner tube instead of tele or classic, the brauner will effect more the deeper frequencies
If you are just really into the workflow and routing in Massive you might give FAW Circle a try.
It has very very similar layout to Massive, but with a bit mellower sound. More importantly though, it allows you to load your own wavs. Loading some single cycle wavs from analog hardware into it can give some pretty thick tones.
I actually use it exactly when I dont want Massive's harshness.
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- KVRist
- 363 posts since 4 Jul, 2007
run a tape emu after it (like nebula or VTM) - that should round off the digital stuff