Animoog and MIDI out - stuck notes
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- KVRist
- 194 posts since 22 Sep, 2004 from sthlm, sweden
I've been playing around with the new MIDI out features on Animoog - on paper the perfect expressive MIDI controller for my softsynths - but I can't get it to work properly.
The most irritating problem is that I get stuck notes everytime I slide my finger across the keyboard. Looking at MIDI monitor I can see a NRPN CC99 message is sent which I suppose is for Animoog to understand the legato ties (as was explained in another thread on the Moog forum) but this seems to screw it up when using any other VST as receiver of the MIDI messages. Or am I doing something wrong?
I've tried with Diva and the Arturia V-collection synths so far.
Anyone else experienced this?
I use a PC, Cubase 6.5, rtpMIDI, iPad 1.
The most irritating problem is that I get stuck notes everytime I slide my finger across the keyboard. Looking at MIDI monitor I can see a NRPN CC99 message is sent which I suppose is for Animoog to understand the legato ties (as was explained in another thread on the Moog forum) but this seems to screw it up when using any other VST as receiver of the MIDI messages. Or am I doing something wrong?
I've tried with Diva and the Arturia V-collection synths so far.
Anyone else experienced this?
I use a PC, Cubase 6.5, rtpMIDI, iPad 1.
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- KVRist
- 175 posts since 6 Dec, 2002
Yes, I got the same problem here. Even playing two notes in staccato I get stuck notes. It's not necessary to slide the finger 
I thought the problem could be my Wi-Fi connection but I tested it using the MidiMe App keyboard and it works great. No stuck notes at all.
I even tried to filter all MIDI messages but MIDI notes (CC#99 and Aftertouch) and it didn't work.
I thought the problem could be my Wi-Fi connection but I tested it using the MidiMe App keyboard and it works great. No stuck notes at all.
I even tried to filter all MIDI messages but MIDI notes (CC#99 and Aftertouch) and it didn't work.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 194 posts since 22 Sep, 2004 from sthlm, sweden
Yes I've also tried filtering out the cc99, with no luck. Plus today I tried recording the MIDI out into Cubase, then playing it back into Animmog - but the polyphonic legato gets lost on the way. I'm trying to get a word from Moog on this, will post back here when I get a reply.
In the meantime, it would be interesting to hear if anyone else got the MIDI out expansion to work?
In the meantime, it would be interesting to hear if anyone else got the MIDI out expansion to work?
- KVRist
- 234 posts since 24 Apr, 2004 from Patagonia
Same here: stuck notes everytime.
I used MIDiox to analize incoming MIDI and it show a lot of note-offs skipping, mostly when sliding your finger over the keys, but also when releasing notes after AT messages. Absolute useless. :X
I'm on PC using RTPmidi, anyone have the same problem on MAc? maybe its a buffer problem wih RTPmidi because the large amount of MIDI data?
I used MIDiox to analize incoming MIDI and it show a lot of note-offs skipping, mostly when sliding your finger over the keys, but also when releasing notes after AT messages. Absolute useless. :X
I'm on PC using RTPmidi, anyone have the same problem on MAc? maybe its a buffer problem wih RTPmidi because the large amount of MIDI data?
- KVRist
- 234 posts since 24 Apr, 2004 from Patagonia
OK, I'm trying filtering options inside the Ipad using MIDIbridge app:
config: animoog midi out to midibridge, midibridge out over wifi to rtpmidi:
If I filter animoog MIDI out CCs inside Midibridge all seems to work fine, even polyAT, but of course, no mod wheel, pitch bend or CCs...
So something is causing the problem in the animoog side, and seems to be MIDI CC related. If CCs are not filtered by MIDibridge I get the stuck notes even if no CCs are used!
Anyone can try it too?
config: animoog midi out to midibridge, midibridge out over wifi to rtpmidi:
If I filter animoog MIDI out CCs inside Midibridge all seems to work fine, even polyAT, but of course, no mod wheel, pitch bend or CCs...
So something is causing the problem in the animoog side, and seems to be MIDI CC related. If CCs are not filtered by MIDibridge I get the stuck notes even if no CCs are used!
Anyone can try it too?
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 22 Aug, 2012
All: I am working on this right now. Not to worry, Animoog MIDI output will continue to be developed and enhanced even after we've gotten the current issues sorted. The goal is definitely to translate as much of the Animoog playing experience to MIDI as is possible.
I will test the Poly Legato behavior in Cubase... I have tested it working successfully in both Logic and Ableton Live (although Live does not support poly-pressure and they have no plans to add such support at this time)...
further answers, and app updates, coming as soon as possible. Thank you!
Amos
I will test the Poly Legato behavior in Cubase... I have tested it working successfully in both Logic and Ableton Live (although Live does not support poly-pressure and they have no plans to add such support at this time)...
further answers, and app updates, coming as soon as possible. Thank you!
Amos
- KVRist
- 234 posts since 24 Apr, 2004 from Patagonia
Thanks! 