Ableton Live sounds louder than Logic Pro 9 ?!
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 16 Aug, 2012
Hi
hello
few days ago I created the same music in Logic and Ableton Live with the same plugins the same notes equal volumes, all the same ... and in the end the sound of Logic Pro sounds low with little punch while Ableton Live sound with high power and more present. ..
Why? Does anyone have or had the same problem?
Thank you
hello
few days ago I created the same music in Logic and Ableton Live with the same plugins the same notes equal volumes, all the same ... and in the end the sound of Logic Pro sounds low with little punch while Ableton Live sound with high power and more present. ..
Why? Does anyone have or had the same problem?
Thank you
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
IMO the reason is "You".ste0mac wrote:
Why?
I think some guys have such problems with most of the hosts. I'm not one of themste0mac wrote:
Does anyone have or had the same problem?
I believe in "1+1=2", so for me there is no difference in the sound quality with the same settings between all digital hosts. If I were you, I would test the difference in the workflow rather than the sound quality
- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 9 Dec, 2011 from falling
Everybody knows Ableton is louder, with better audio quality of course
- Banned
- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
You might want to check your preferences settings out.
I did have some very slight differences between Live and Logic8, but it was due to latency, and other settings which were different between them.
There is definitely output level differences though.
When I do sounds in Live where they are just below the red peaking line, these will be at a much lower level in Logic, giving much more headroom...but no sound quality differences that I can hear, just level differences. That's normal though.
I did have some very slight differences between Live and Logic8, but it was due to latency, and other settings which were different between them.
There is definitely output level differences though.
When I do sounds in Live where they are just below the red peaking line, these will be at a much lower level in Logic, giving much more headroom...but no sound quality differences that I can hear, just level differences. That's normal though.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Another thing could be pan laws. I dunno, iirc correctly, live 6 didn't have pan laws. If it still doesn't (or I just didn't know they were there) and you DO use -3/etc in logic then that could be it.
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- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
Yep.hibidy wrote:Another thing could be pan laws. I dunno, iirc correctly, live 6 didn't have pan laws. If it still doesn't (or I just didn't know they were there) and you DO use -3/etc in logic then that could be it.
I noticed a difference between Live and Logic with that.
Logic has this kinda wider stereo range than Live imo, which is just with the monitoring, and has no effect on quality of audio, or similar though.
- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 9 Dec, 2011 from falling
Attempting to do the same track in Logic and then in Live this year, my immediate impression was ...
- The track in Logic sounded like it had more depth somehow
- Live sounded a bit tighter and in my face
I tried my best to get all settings the same, but this was by no means scientific. I did the test for me.
Ultimately I decided to work in Live because my workflow is much faster, and while my results sounded different, Live still sounded great. You can probably tweak away until you get both DAWs sounding pretty darn similar, but to me the results I get do sound different.
I still miss Logic's built in plugins, and I think Logic's timeline is nicer than Live's. At the end of the day you could go back and forth forever, but there is something to be said for picking one DAW and learning the heck out of it. You'll learn to make it sound pretty much any way you want.
- The track in Logic sounded like it had more depth somehow
- Live sounded a bit tighter and in my face
I tried my best to get all settings the same, but this was by no means scientific. I did the test for me.
Ultimately I decided to work in Live because my workflow is much faster, and while my results sounded different, Live still sounded great. You can probably tweak away until you get both DAWs sounding pretty darn similar, but to me the results I get do sound different.
I still miss Logic's built in plugins, and I think Logic's timeline is nicer than Live's. At the end of the day you could go back and forth forever, but there is something to be said for picking one DAW and learning the heck out of it. You'll learn to make it sound pretty much any way you want.
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
All i know is that if the OP is using the 64 bit beta of live, that could explain the anomaly, as it a has super encrypted 4096 bit analogue warmer under the hood.
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Dean Aka Nekro Dean Aka Nekro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=162100
- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
You did not export the audio with normalize and other stuff in the render options list on?
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- KVRAF
- 6155 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
Hey ttoz... I recently saw someone here call you "Theo". Are you the same Theo who does those amazingly fast midi drawing orchestral compositions on YouTube, Theo Krueger? (pardon if I spelled it wrong)ttoz wrote:All i know is that if the OP is using the 64 bit beta of live, that could explain the anomaly, as it a has super encrypted 4096 bit analogue warmer under the hood.
Or is that just a coinkidink that you two are both named Theo?
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
coincidence i am afraid.. my last name starts with M, hence my nick, TheodoreM at other places.
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- KVRAF
- 3628 posts since 25 Mar, 2006 from The city by the bay
Which is the basic problem with making this kind of inquiry at KVR.EnGee wrote: I think some guys have such problems with most of the hosts. I'm not one of them
If forced to use any of the major DAWs around today, would any serious KVRian encounter real problems with the quality of the sound, volume, etc.?
That said, if you've got DAW envy and think you've found serious issues with the other guys, it might just do the trick...