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rconine · Post by **rconine** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:32 pm

I've been using Cantabile Performer with NI instruments for a few weeks. I'm making the switch from a Receptor. I wanted to add HALion Sonic to a rack. I added HS to a rack by itself with MIDI In set to [Any] and [Omni]. I opened (using Edit) HS and added a few brass instruments. The brass instruments trigger from HS's on-screen keyboard. I close HS and go to Cantabile's on-screen keyboard. No sound from the on-screen keyboard. I added 4FrontPiano to the rack and it sounds from the on-screen keyboard (and my other physical black n' white keyboards as well as the computer keyboard). I put instruments on both sides of HS (with MIDI Pass Thru on) and the surrounding instruments sound, but not HS. Opening HS from Edit, I get sounds from HS's keyboard--and the MIDI lights in HS come on. Triggering from the black 'n whites, the surrounding instruments sound, but not HS, and HS lights don't indicate MIDI.

It appears that MIDI isn't getting to the instantiation of HALion. Yet, it gets to the rack.

Stumped. Any ideas?

Richard
(Moving from Receptor)
Keys: Novation, Kurzweil
Instruments: NI Komplete, Steinberg, more coming
Computer: HP Ultrabook Pro, Windows 7 Pro
MSCE, MCDBA, HP ASE

JeffB · Post by **JeffB** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:52 pm

Have you checked your MIDI filters in Cantabile to make sure you haven't inadvertantly added one just to Halion sonic?

rconine · Post by **rconine** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:54 pm

JeffB wrote:Have you checked your MIDI filters in Cantabile to make sure you haven't inadvertantly added one just to Halion sonic?

Yep.

pinkcanaru · Post by **pinkcanaru** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:15 pm

you might find this midi monitor useful.
I have never encountered a situation where a plugin in sees no midi unless there was a filter in the way. The monitor will show whether the midi is getting there.
Also - try substituting - in the same rack - the Halion Sonic with another VSTi and see if that works.

http://www.rs-met.com/freebies.html

rconine · Post by **rconine** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:36 pm

pinkcanaru:
"Substituting in the same rack", I have two instruments in the same rack and they sound! I have a MIDI monitor I haven't used yet. But, it seems if the other instruments (one before, HALion, one after) work...thus the "stumped".

BTW, everything is set to OMNI and ALL

pinkcanaru · Post by **pinkcanaru** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:45 pm

place only Halion in rack - nothing else - in a new clean session.
Does that work?
I see you started from there - in your first post - but just for the helluvit... maybe one more go from a brand new session.

pinkcanaru · Post by **pinkcanaru** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:01 am

And one other question - Can Halion Sonic be used as an FX unit? Is it possible that you have instantiated the FX version?

rconine · Post by **rconine** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:14 am

pinkcanaru wrote:And one other question - Can Halion Sonic be used as an FX unit? Is it possible that you have instantiated the FX version?

Don't think so--it plays from it's on-screen keyboard (but not from Cantabile's)

Keep 'em coming...somebody's going to hit on an idea.

Richard

pinkcanaru · Post by **pinkcanaru** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:32 am

Have you successfully played that Halion Sonic from another host on your Cantabile computer?

pinkcanaru · Post by **pinkcanaru** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:39 am

From the Cantabile Blog:

Build 2057
It's been a while but there's now a new build of Cantabile. Just a few little bug fixes, but most importantly a fix for a long standing bug where Halion Sonic wouldn't produce sound when part of the initial startup session.

So!!!!
There is a little more to this!
Suggest you download the latest experimental build and see if that works. You can find it at the Cantabile webaite. Perhaps the bug snuck back in.

rconine · Post by **rconine** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:36 pm

HA! This looks like a good lead. I'm off to experiment.

Thanks.

rconine · Post by **rconine** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:17 pm

I've gotten nowhere in additional testing. Tried the test version to no avail. Tried several other things and I'm at the same place.

pinkcanaru · Post by **pinkcanaru** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:41 pm

Suggest you contact Brad. There is a contact email at the Cantabile Website.
One other thing....
Have you tried putting a second Hal Sonic into another rack?

rconine · Post by **rconine** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:05 pm

pinkcanaru wrote:Suggest you contact Brad. There is a contact email at the Cantabile Website.
One other thing....
Have you tried putting a second Hal Sonic into another rack?

Thanks, got a case open with Brad now.

Richard

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