KVR Audio

realmarco · Post by **realmarco** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:12 pm

the Gui doesnt match the Picture, and its just playing back samples nothing like what its supposed to be doing

Im usin Logic on a Mac
this is what its supposed to be

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BUT this is what shows up in logic pro

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FLWrd · Post by **FLWrd** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:16 am

I've only had problems with Piano One on the mac: it used to crash when closing the GUI. After the latest update, it doesn't, but the GUI also differs from the one on the page, and the sound is, well, bad. Can't say I'm surprised.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:39 am

Same experience here as realmarco's. The more advanced GUI in the top pic is probably Windows only.

Like Piano One, this plug is built on Maize Sampler technology (a rather modest developing platform, isn't it?) and as usual, the hype has outstripped performance by a huge ratio.

It's not a useable instrument, at least not on the Mac, and I have deleted it. No matter if it's free or not, it doesn't breed confidence in the dev's other products.

/Joachim

topaz · Post by **topaz** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:42 am

Thought I would give it a go but soon deleted it.

The player was awefull, reverbs did not turn off, all in all a poor thing.

topaz · Post by **topaz** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:46 am

I'm probably going to upset people but the whole DC for mac users was nothing short of a bad joke.

There, said it.

realmarco · Post by **realmarco** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:00 am

if the Pc version is the same as the Mac, it should not count in the contest in my opinion

and what about the ridiculous description

Orchestral Strings One was recorded utilizing the legendary acoustics in the famous Berliner Hall - home of the world class BERLINER PHILHARMONIKER. Our full string orchestra contains 14 violins, 10 Violas, 8 Cellos and 6 Double Basses. Now it's your turn to experience this huge orchestral section as a useful string instrument. Sound Magic has created Orchestral Strings One as a single ensemble complete with the beautiful ambience of this amazing hall. This incredible instrument will quickly become your "go to" string orchestra. No longer will you have to try and build a similar sound with several different string instruments or sections, burning up tracks, RAM, CPU cycles and your valuable time!

Violins, violas, cellos and basses are considered to be nearly impossible to sample into realistic sounding instruments. And the String Ensemble is the holy grail of these string instruments. KVR's Developers Challenge has provided Sound Magic with an opportunity to push the boundaries of our Hybrid Modeling Technology by creating Orchestral Strings One. Our quest for extreme realism not only lets us flex our engineering and computational chops - it gives you an incredibly useful freebie!

If you're familiar with the #2 ranked KVR instrument, Piano One, you know how clean Sound Magic's efforts are. To ensure the highest sound quality possible in our samples, we use top-of-the-line gear such as Brauner Microphones and Neve preamps. Couple this gear with the prodigious Berliner Hall and Orchestral Strings One is able to push the boundaries of realism - with the aid of Sound Magic's Award-Winning NEO Hybrid Modeling Technology, of course!

The NEO Hybrid Modeling Engine offers you the best from both the sampling and modeling worlds. The Authentic Sound of Sampling combined with the Playability of Modeling makes for a string experience that you have to try to believe! No steep
hardware requirements here. Orchestral Strings One takes up less than 200MB of disk space and doesn't overly tax your CPU. The NEO Hybrid Modeling Engine gives you absolute control over every aspect of each string - you can even design your own string! There are nearly 20 controls waiting for you to tweak! Some of you (you know who you are!) just HAVE to dial up the legato and velocity, fiddle with the dynamic response, and play with those timbre differences.

Unlike static samples, modeling technology really brings the Orchestral Strings One
to life. And more importantly, Orchestral Strings One focuses on the continuous flow of melody, not on just a single note. For example, you can progressively transform a sustained note by first adding slow vibrato, then medium vibrato and finally fast vibrato. While doing this, you can also use the expression controller to change from crescendo to decrescendo. This sort of control is just about impossible to achieve with sampled strings.

Orchestral Strings One is very easy to use. You can play with all the parameters on the fly with a MIDI keyboard using key switches and controllers. A keyboard player can easily and freely play our Orchestral Strings One without any difficulty. It's perfect for a live performance!

Features:

Innovative Sampling technologies put 14 violins, 10 Violas, 8 Cellos and 6 Double Basses into One instrument.
Neo Hybrid Modeling Engine make the full strings section into 200MB.
Innovative Key Switch and Controller system makes it ideal for use in live performance.
Can real-time switch between Spic, Staccato, Pizzicato, Legato, Cresando, Decresando, PFP, Vibrato, Tremolo, Trills and Sordino by Key Switches and MIDI Controllers.
Fully controllable legato system.
Auto Rhythm Tool helps you better and quicker play repeated notes on fly.
Multi Microphone Positions, Player, Audience and Ambience/Room.
Small RAM usage and Light on CPU.
Built-in High-Quality Reverb.
Built in 64-Steps Sequencer enable users to compose their string phrases in a quickest and efficient way.
Support Add-ons System.

chokehold · Post by **chokehold** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:25 am

realmarco wrote:NEO Hybrid Modeling Engine

Judging from the MIDI keyboard with left and right arrows in the second picture of the original post, and by the thing about it crashing when closing the GUI up until the latest version, I immediately have to think of Maize Sampler.

Maize Sampler is an outstanding product! It may have a little flaw here and there, sort-of a "rough diamond", but it has an impressive amount of possibilities and features, plus it's constantly being developed and slowly getting better.

So the technical problems are probably due to Maize Sampler's player instabilities, and not really "library faults".

Still, doesn't make it any less of a swindle.
There's no "modeling engine" what so ever going on.
Just samples in a Maize Sampler player.

realmarco · Post by **realmarco** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:53 am

im talking about the plugin, not the Dev plateform,im open to new things...but the description from that guy's website is ridiculous, unless he just Copy-pasted the description of Maize(or wutever)

chokehold · Post by **chokehold** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:40 am

realmarco wrote:im talking about the plugin, not the Dev plateform,im open to new things...but the description from that guy's website is ridiculous, unless he just Copy-pasted the description of Maize(or wutever)

Just wanted to shed some light. Sorry for that.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:06 am

chokehold wrote:
realmarco wrote:NEO Hybrid Modeling Engine
Judging from the MIDI keyboard with left and right arrows in the second picture of the original post, and by the thing about it crashing when closing the GUI up until the latest version, I immediately have to think of Maize Sampler.

Maize Sampler is an outstanding product! It may have a little flaw here and there, sort-of a "rough diamond", but it has an impressive amount of possibilities and features, plus it's constantly being developed and slowly getting better.

So the technical problems are probably due to Maize Sampler's player instabilities, and not really "library faults".

Still, doesn't make it any less of a swindle.
There's no "modeling engine" what so ever going on.
Just samples in a Maize Sampler player.

Yes, Strings1 (like Piano1) is obviously based on Maize Sampler technology, since (at least on the Mac) you have to install a Maize framework first (SPRuntime). The installer states:

"This dynamic library enables all Maize Sampler powered Audio Units and VST for Mac OS X."

So, unless the dev is using some secret super version of MS, this 'modelled' blabla is just b-s. I wonder how he figures that such a crippled plug-in will attract customers to his payware. Pathetic amateurism.

I agree that Maize Sampler has a lot of potential and I hope that it will soon gain dynamic filters (operable in the rendered plug-ins).

/Joachim

realmarco · Post by **realmarco** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:46 pm

chokehold wrote:
realmarco wrote:im talking about the plugin, not the Dev plateform,im open to new things...but the description from that guy's website is ridiculous, unless he just Copy-pasted the description of Maize(or wutever)
Just wanted to shed some light. Sorry for that.

No need to apologize, my tone always sound like that, dont take it perssonally

Orchestral Strings One Doesnt work