KVR Audio

Sp34k · Post by **Sp34k** » Tue May 21, 2013 6:06 pm

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Hallo KVR Community members,

I have an issue which often occurs during gameplay (extreme when playing Dragon Age 2), which is noises in my headphones whenever I move my mouse.

I did some research (most useful info. was from this community) - from where I learned to run msinfo32.exe and look for conflicht.

I did this, but sadly I don't know how to read it and make any sense out of it so I can replace the conflicted hardware.

My headphones are Bose Quietcomfort 3
My DxDiag can be seen here: www.sp34k.com/DxDiag.txt (http://www.sp34k.com/DxDiag.txt)
My msinfo32.exe conflicts/sharing resulted in:

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x0000000F Direct memory access controller
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x0000000F PCI bus

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Root Port - 0101
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660

Memory Address 0xF9000000-0xFAFFFFFF Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Root Port - 0101
Memory Address 0xF9000000-0xFAFFFFFF NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660

IRQ 16 Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 1C10
IRQ 16 Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 1C18
IRQ 16 Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Root Port - 0101
IRQ 16 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
IRQ 16 Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Controller - 0105

Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xFEBFFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xFEBFFFFF Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Root Port - 0101
Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xFEBFFFFF NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660

IRQ 18 Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 1C2D
IRQ 18 Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 7 - 1C1C

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Root Port - 0101
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660

IRQ 19 Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
IRQ 19 PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
IRQ 19 Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 1C00
IRQ 19 Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 1C08
IRQ 19 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
IRQ 19 Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 - 1C1E

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Root Port - 0101
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660

I/O Port 0x00000290-0x0000029F Motherboard resources
I/O Port 0x00000290-0x0000029F Motherboard resources

If you can make any sense out of it - or have an idéa of what could cause this problem, please let me know!

Cheers,
Mike

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Tue May 21, 2013 7:31 pm

It's not a resource conflict. The cause is your builtin sound chip is sitting on your motherboard, unshielded from the electro-magnetic hell inside your pc case. Radio frequency interference.... And you amplify it too loud, wearing headphones, so this annoying sound is right between your ears.

So buy a decent audio card. Not a SoundBlaster preferrably. Then put away the headphones, turn down the volume so not to bother the neighbours.
Oh and create some music instead of playing games. That's what the kvr forum is for

tomtoo · Post by **tomtoo** » Tue May 21, 2013 7:49 pm

Sp34k wrote:Hallo KVR Community members,......or have an idéa of what could cause this problem, please let me know!

Cheers,
Mike

What OS you use ?

What mouse you use (wireless) ?

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Tue May 21, 2013 7:59 pm

Noise when moving mouse

If it's a kind of squeaking noise, I wouldn't worry too much. Mice do that naturally.

zeep · Post by **zeep** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:48 pm

What bertkoor said. It's interference. Best you can do is check Grounds here and there, maybe some Groundlift, but chances are if you have it, you keep it.

Some sound setups make it really bad, i had it once with a Tascam usb audio interface really bad.

My m-audio fw410 is dead silent.

My Creative XFI has it a little bit.

Best thing you can do is get a reasonable sound interface / card, and good cables to some extend.

Sp34k · Post by **Sp34k** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:59 pm

BertKoor wrote:It's not a resource conflict. The cause is your builtin sound chip is sitting on your motherboard, unshielded from the electro-magnetic hell inside your pc case. Radio frequency interference.... And you amplify it too loud, wearing headphones, so this annoying sound is right between your ears.

So buy a decent audio card. Not a SoundBlaster preferrably. Then put away the headphones, turn down the volume so not to bother the neighbours.
Oh and create some music instead of playing games. That's what the kvr forum is for

I don't create music but I own a keyboard, is that good enough?

Creating music has never been my strong side, beside, I use my computer primary for programming... ANYWAYS, I'm getting off-topic here..

I have never invested money in a soundcard, so I know just as much about soundcards as I do about spaceships.

As Zeeo mentioned, his m-audio fw410 is dead silence but, after doing some reasearch I learned that I probably don't need a $190 soundcard to play games and listen to music - but again what can I expect when asking musicians/sound experts for hardware-advice.

Nonetheless, your advice and help has been helpful, so I thank you guys.

I guess I will continue searching for a soundcard for my PC

Oh, and PS. I actually own a copy of Ableton if that makes me more of a "kvr-member"

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Tue May 21, 2013 9:19 pm

I had this problem and fixed it by pluging my headphones in the back of the computer direct to the sound card instead of using the headphone out on the rom drive bay thing that came with my sound card.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue May 21, 2013 9:21 pm

BertKoor wrote:It's not a resource conflict. The cause is your builtin sound chip is sitting on your motherboard, unshielded from the electro-magnetic hell inside your pc case. Radio frequency interference.... And you amplify it too loud, wearing headphones, so this annoying sound is right between your ears.

That. It's perfectly normal. I have it on all my PC's and laptops. ^^

jethrobull · Post by **jethrobull** » Tue May 21, 2013 9:23 pm

Aloysius wrote:
Noise when moving mouse
If it's a kind of squeaking noise, I wouldn't worry too much. Mice do that naturally.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue May 21, 2013 9:25 pm

jethrobull wrote:
Aloysius wrote:
Noise when moving mouse
If it's a kind of squeaking noise, I wouldn't worry too much. Mice do that naturally.

Kaine · Post by **Kaine** » Wed May 22, 2013 8:30 am

Two things it could be.

Power noise from the caps. Turn off EIST & C States (C1/C2/C3/C6), spread spectrum, thermal monitoring in the bios and see if it get's better.

If that doesn't work then as suggested above it could be noise on the board / sound chip. Buy one of the budget Asus Xonars.

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Wed May 22, 2013 9:30 am

This has happened with wireless mice/devices for certain people.

Daniel Magix · Post by **Daniel Magix** » Wed May 22, 2013 1:56 pm

I have only ever heard this when using an internal soundcard, I suggest an external USB soundcard. Or least get a loan of one to verify the issue.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:34 am

Kaine wrote:Two things it could be.

Power noise from the caps. Turn off EIST & C States (C1/C2/C3/C6), spread spectrum, thermal monitoring in the bios and see if it get's better.

If that doesn't work then as suggested above it could be noise on the board / sound chip. Buy one of the budget Asus Xonars.

It's more than two things.

This was an old problem, but I had my Matrox G450, in the driver you could set whether the card would play PCI bus master or not. If it wasn't, the corded mouse would cause noise in the audio as you moved it. Point being, it can be a device driver configuration in your system that can cause it. So your summation above about a conflict is valid and can happen.

As suggested above, try a ground lift for a few minutes. I don't suggest it as a permanent solution, because well, it's dangerous in and of itself. If the problem goes away, it's a grounding issue. I've had that on several laptops; you unplug it from the wall and run on battery, the audio is perfect. Plug it back in, you get the pops/clicks when you move the mouse.

Devon

Kaine · Post by **Kaine** » Fri May 24, 2013 8:22 am

DevonB wrote: It's more than two things.

I stand corrected.