Save a prayer. I have nailed it!
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- KVRer
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- 7 posts since 16 Dec, 2004
Hi! I haven't posted on this forum for a very, very long time (if ever at all) but I thought I would share this with you, considering it has been discussed on many forums round the world, including this one: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... d4850e7cc8
The famous sequence and lead sounds from Duran Duran's "Save a prayer".
1. The sequence:
OSC1: JP8 square wave
OSC2: JP8 square wave +1 octave, slightly detuned
Roll off low frequencies with Jupiter HPF filter
Medium decay and release on Amp envelope, no Filter envelope
Add chorus & reverb
Delay: single repeat at 3/4 beat (dotted quaver)
Optional: single repeat on beat (crotchet)
Play D - E - F - A - C - A - C - A : the 3/4 delay will give the impression that you are playing C-A-A-C-C-A-A-C at the end, as on the record.
2. The lead sound:
This is a simple Jupiter 8 synth strings patch (not a flute or anything else) played in Unison mode with a slowish attack and not too long a release time with added chorus and reverb. My demo below also has delay.
3. The demo (this is a Jupiter 50, by the way, with added Roland R8 drums and Fender Telecaster):
http://www.gillescoudert.com/music_files/SAPDemo.mp3
Please feel free to comment.
Gilles
The famous sequence and lead sounds from Duran Duran's "Save a prayer".
1. The sequence:
OSC1: JP8 square wave
OSC2: JP8 square wave +1 octave, slightly detuned
Roll off low frequencies with Jupiter HPF filter
Medium decay and release on Amp envelope, no Filter envelope
Add chorus & reverb
Delay: single repeat at 3/4 beat (dotted quaver)
Optional: single repeat on beat (crotchet)
Play D - E - F - A - C - A - C - A : the 3/4 delay will give the impression that you are playing C-A-A-C-C-A-A-C at the end, as on the record.
2. The lead sound:
This is a simple Jupiter 8 synth strings patch (not a flute or anything else) played in Unison mode with a slowish attack and not too long a release time with added chorus and reverb. My demo below also has delay.
3. The demo (this is a Jupiter 50, by the way, with added Roland R8 drums and Fender Telecaster):
http://www.gillescoudert.com/music_files/SAPDemo.mp3
Please feel free to comment.
Gilles
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Yup, no doubt this seems to be in d minorgcoudert wrote:Play D - E - F - A - C - A - C - A
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- KVRer
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- 7 posts since 16 Dec, 2004
The saddest of all keys, according to Nigel Tufnell!!!Numanoid wrote:Yup, no doubt this seems to be in d minorgcoudert wrote:Play D - E - F - A - C - A - C - A
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gcoudert wrote:The saddest of all keys, according to Nigel Tufnell!!!Numanoid wrote:Yup, no doubt this seems to be in d minorgcoudert wrote:Play D - E - F - A - C - A - C - A
Tried to listen to your demo but systems says "Cannot find file..."
Can you repair it "before the morning after"?
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- KVRer
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- 7 posts since 16 Dec, 2004
Hmmm... I'll have a look.
Alternatively, try http://soundcloud.com/gcoudert/save-a-prayer
Alternatively, try http://soundcloud.com/gcoudert/save-a-prayer
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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I always found that song and melody very uplifting, nothing sad about it in my view...gcoudert wrote:The saddest of all keys, according to Nigel Tufnell!!!Numanoid wrote:Yup, no doubt this seems to be in d minorgcoudert wrote:Play D - E - F - A - C - A - C - A
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Really sounds like "Save a Prayer"...gcoudert wrote:Hmmm... I'll have a look.
Alternatively, try http://soundcloud.com/gcoudert/save-a-prayer
Could it be that the original synth lead is a tad brighter?
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- KVRer
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- 7 posts since 16 Dec, 2004
OK, try again. I had stupidly deleted the file's mp3 extension when I renamed it.gcoudert wrote:Hmmm... I'll have a look.
Alternatively, try http://soundcloud.com/gcoudert/save-a-prayer
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- KVRer
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- 7 posts since 16 Dec, 2004
You may be right there, thanks. I'll give it a go at the weekend.Tricky-Loops wrote:Really sounds like "Save a Prayer"...gcoudert wrote:Hmmm... I'll have a look.
Alternatively, try http://soundcloud.com/gcoudert/save-a-prayer
Could it be that the original synth lead is a tad brighter?
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Sounds very good
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Took a while to nail it though, about 31 years, so it's a break through for the patient reverse engineersgcoudert wrote:Hi! I haven't posted on this forum for a very, very long time (if ever at all)
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- KVRer
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- 7 posts since 16 Dec, 2004
I agree. There's something about the tune and the sounds used, except for Andy Taylor's guitar tone in the solo, which sounds more like a hair-dryer to my ears. The words don't make much sense either but I have loved that song ever since it came out nevertheless.fluffy_little_something wrote:I always found that song and melody very uplifting, nothing sad about it in my view...
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- KVRer
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- 7 posts since 16 Dec, 2004
Well, somebody had to do it! You'll all be playing that song without resorting to flute and shakuhachi samples now and it's all thanks to me!!!Numanoid wrote:Took a while to nail it though, about 31 years, so it's a break through for the patient reverse engineersgcoudert wrote:Hi! I haven't posted on this forum for a very, very long time (if ever at all)
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Yes, there are two or three nice patches and the airy feeling, and the video shot at an exotic locationgcoudert wrote:I agree. There's something about the tune and the sounds used, except for Andy Taylor's guitar tone in the solo, which sounds more like a hair-dryer to my ears. The words don't make much sense either but I have loved that song ever since it came out nevertheless.fluffy_little_something wrote:I always found that song and melody very uplifting, nothing sad about it in my view...
Interestingly in the video they pretend it is a kind of flute sound ^^
SLB's voice is harsh and annoying as always
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The lyrics actually do make much sense but it can be interpreted differently (why he has to pray the morning after the one-night-stand?).gcoudert wrote:I agree. There's something about the tune and the sounds used, except for Andy Taylor's guitar tone in the solo, which sounds more like a hair-dryer to my ears. The words don't make much sense either but I have loved that song ever since it came out nevertheless.fluffy_little_something wrote:I always found that song and melody very uplifting, nothing sad about it in my view...
That's what I LOVE on these 80ies (and 90ies) songs. You can think hours about the lyrics and what they mean, and every time you hear something different...
Or some enigmatic lyrics like in "Dance in my Sobriety" or "Self Control" - CLASSICS!!