Photosounder Spiral CM now out and about
- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
"See your sounds like never before with this radically innovative visualisation tool for PC and Mac" runs the ad.
I guess it is a cut down version of the Photosounder plugin: http://www.kvraudio.com/product/photoso ... otosounder
I guess it is a cut down version of the Photosounder plugin: http://www.kvraudio.com/product/photoso ... otosounder
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- KVRian
- 1075 posts since 16 Jun, 2007
I think it might be something entirely different from Photosounder (Photosounder is the company name as well as the name of one of the products). Photosounder is a standalone sound generating tool, this sounds like a visualisation plugin.
To me, it sounds more like it might be something like the visualisation part of Photosounder's SplineEQ. Lots of people asked him to create a plugin with just the visualisation part when he launched SplineEQ so it kind of fits that he might do this for a Magware plugin.
Having said that, I have no insider knowledge, I'm just saying how it reads to me! It'll probably end up being something else entirely!
To me, it sounds more like it might be something like the visualisation part of Photosounder's SplineEQ. Lots of people asked him to create a plugin with just the visualisation part when he launched SplineEQ so it kind of fits that he might do this for a Magware plugin.
Having said that, I have no insider knowledge, I'm just saying how it reads to me! It'll probably end up being something else entirely!
- KVRian
- 1323 posts since 26 Mar, 2004 from UK
- KVRAF
- 13974 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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- KVRAF
- 4380 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Numanoid, where did you grab that news exactly?
- KVRAF
- 10166 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Didnt Crysonic threaten to release a plugin with graphical feedback like that one above
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
In the current issue of Computer Music, there is an announcement for the next issue that will carry this plugin.Neon Breath wrote:Numanoid, where did you grab that news exactly?
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- KVRian
- 1057 posts since 6 May, 2008 from Poland
I had no idea they did that lol, I guess that explains why they weren't letting me get out of doing it for the August issue (because I still haven't finished the non-CM version, I kinda did it backwards, I finished the CM version before really starting on the commercial version). I only just googled "Spiral CM" and found this thread because I assumed no one would have heard of it until a few days ago.Numanoid wrote:In the current issue of Computer Music, there is an announcement for the next issue that will carry this plugin.Neon Breath wrote:Numanoid, where did you grab that news exactly?
Yeah SpiralCM is basically SplineEQ's visualisation wound into a spiral, though I did it not because of popular demand but because I wanted to learn music. Last year when I started this basically I didn't know any music at all, now I know a whole bunch of tunes (which I play on my all thirds-tuned guitar) from just letting the Spiral thing run while I listen to music and staring at it for hourschuck death wrote:To me, it sounds more like it might be something like the visualisation part of Photosounder's SplineEQ. Lots of people asked him to create a plugin with just the visualisation part when he launched SplineEQ so it kind of fits that he might do this for a Magware plugin.
There's more to just that to the upcoming full version, basically SpiralCM does the basic job of displaying the notes, the commercial version adds things to make it easier to figure out what's going like most notably stereo pan colouring to tell instruments apart (and also cause it's really pretty, see gif below), but also the ability to replay/freeze a recorded segment to analyse in detail (and the ability to time-stretch that to hear what you're looking at, although I haven't implemented that yet), adjustable resolution (which makes it pretty great for tuning an instrument), a mouse-controlled overlay to figure harmonics out (also not implemented yet, oops), more visualisation controls like gamma, or a way to remove/isolate based on stereo pan (helps focus on an instrument).
The magazine's coming out tomorrow and I haven't even added demo limitations, and I don't even have a webpage for it, tomorrow's gonna be a long day

- KVRAF
- 3037 posts since 5 Jun, 2011 from Preston, England, UK
This looks cool!
I have SplineEQ and also have a subscription to CM so....

software is a tool that allows us to complete a given task.
social media is full of tools that distract us from a given task.
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social media is full of tools that distract us from a given task.
myfeebleeffort
https://paulroach2.bandcamp.com/
https://hearthis.at/83hdtrvm/
- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Can it really substitute my TV? 
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- KVRian
- 1057 posts since 6 May, 2008 from Poland
Depends, but I can tell you that my programming is much better than CNN's programmingTricky-Loops wrote:Can it really substitute my TV?
- KVRist
- 217 posts since 4 Jan, 2013
Now I got it.
It's the harmonic visualisation tool.
This gives insight into the melodic content of your synth parts and samples.
It's the harmonic visualisation tool.
This gives insight into the melodic content of your synth parts and samples.
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- KVRian
- 1057 posts since 6 May, 2008 from Poland
Yeah it does that too. The whole spiral thing is meant to make you understand almost instantly not only what notes there are but also how each visible harmonic belongs with each other as most harmonics stack up into visible "branches" to form a recognisable shape. That's the big difference with a visualiser like SplineEQ's where you can see it all but it's hard to tell which note is playing or which harmonic you're looking at.Kenit wrote:Now I got it.
It's the harmonic visualisation tool.
This gives insight into the melodic content of your synth parts and samples.
But unusually enough for a plugin I made this thing not to use on your own creations as much as to use on other peoples music for you to learn what's going on in there musically, with their synthesis or processing or even just the nature of their instruments sound (with Spiral you can see how each instrument looks like, whether its harmonics shake around like strings or Hammonds might do, whether you can mostly see the lowest harmonics like a flute or a piano or the higher harmonics like a saxophone or a clavichord, or all harmonics like a sawtooth, or whether notes glissando between each other like many synths do or are bent or slided like on a guitar) but also see and learn about the mixing and mostly as with the full version learn about stereo mixing.
So that's why I just load it into something like SAVIHost and feed it the computer's "stereo mix", there's a lot to learn that way.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
A_SN wrote:Depends, but I can tell you that my programming is much better than CNN's programmingTricky-Loops wrote:Can it really substitute my TV?
I have now added the CM mag to my CM vault and have download the plugin, will check it out after work today

