ok,i have had my ipad for a year now and still havent jumped onboard musically with my ipad,i have read reviews on auria,cubasis and nanostudio and all seem to have their pros and cons but which is my best option?
i hear auria is pretty amazing yet i have just read that it does NOT have full midi editing which is a big no no for me,yet it has full automation?
i own a few synths(ms20,etc) and i would want to use them in the daw and have full automation within the daw
please help here,thanks
recommend me an ipad 'DAW'
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- KVRist
- 50 posts since 18 Mar, 2011 from USA
Well, no easy answer for exactly what you are looking for. There really isn't the equivalent of a Logic or Ableton that lets you use MIDI editing on VST type plugins.
If you want MIDI editing, you probably will have to work within one DAW and use its built-in instruments.
To use a DAW on iOS you end up using Audio files at some point. There Auria is terrific with lots of effects and add-on options (at a cost).
For MIDI, Garageband has decent MIDI editing and a ton of built-in instruments - the bad news? Automation is almost non-existent (but at $5 you should simply buy it, too useful and too cheap to pass up).
NanoStudio has good MIDI editing provided you want to used its built-in synth (Eden) which is quite nice.
BM2 has decent MIDI editing if you are using (or creating) sampled instruments.
Music Studio (same more or less as FL Studio Mobile) also has MIDI editing if you stick to its samples (but terrible effect chains).
Tabletop has MIDI editing on all of its instruments if you can live with using only its 'add on' instruments. Pricey and not exactly a DAW but I like it.
Your best bet is to use a combination of everything along with Audiobus and a DAW such as Auria or Multitrack-DAW to work with the resulting Audio files.
The good news is that most tools are a fraction of the price of desktop tools so it won't break the bank buying several.
If you want MIDI editing, you probably will have to work within one DAW and use its built-in instruments.
To use a DAW on iOS you end up using Audio files at some point. There Auria is terrific with lots of effects and add-on options (at a cost).
For MIDI, Garageband has decent MIDI editing and a ton of built-in instruments - the bad news? Automation is almost non-existent (but at $5 you should simply buy it, too useful and too cheap to pass up).
NanoStudio has good MIDI editing provided you want to used its built-in synth (Eden) which is quite nice.
BM2 has decent MIDI editing if you are using (or creating) sampled instruments.
Music Studio (same more or less as FL Studio Mobile) also has MIDI editing if you stick to its samples (but terrible effect chains).
Tabletop has MIDI editing on all of its instruments if you can live with using only its 'add on' instruments. Pricey and not exactly a DAW but I like it.
Your best bet is to use a combination of everything along with Audiobus and a DAW such as Auria or Multitrack-DAW to work with the resulting Audio files.
The good news is that most tools are a fraction of the price of desktop tools so it won't break the bank buying several.
iPad/iMac Music blog - http://whitherwalter.blogspot.com
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- Banned
- 1583 posts since 19 Aug, 2011
Cubasis. End of story.
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- KVRAF
- 7198 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
For All-in-one, BMoore hits the nail on the head.BMoore wrote:Cubasis. End of story.
--Sean
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1133 posts since 31 May, 2007
yep,usually the case,basically im on vaction for 2 weeks and im taking the ipad so i can sit on the balcony at nights and just write some musicmartygras wrote:Get them all. You will in the end anyway.
(I can't find an emoticon for "half joking")
cubasis seems to be the way to go at the moment,only because auria does not support full midi editing?
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- KVRist
- 102 posts since 25 Dec, 2011
I agree with oldlibmike: there's no easy answer right now. When Cubasis goes on sale next week, I'll probably try it. It has MIDI and it runs better on older devices than Auria. But no one thinks the effects are any good. Beatmaker has weak effects and the built-in instruments aren't very good either. But it does handle MIDI and audio both, and it's cheaper than the other two. It also runs on smaller devices.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1133 posts since 31 May, 2007
cubasis is on sale next week?dswo wrote:I agree with oldlibmike: there's no easy answer right now. When Cubasis goes on sale next week, I'll probably try it. It has MIDI and it runs better on older devices than Auria. But no one thinks the effects are any good. Beatmaker has weak effects and the built-in instruments aren't very good either. But it does handle MIDI and audio both, and it's cheaper than the other two. It also runs on smaller devices.
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- KVRist
- 102 posts since 25 Dec, 2011
Make that "tomorrow," according to Steinberg rep Guillermo Navarrete: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 36#5468736.damoog wrote:cubasis is on sale next week?
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- KVRAF
- 7198 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
@dswo you forgot that Beatmaker2 is also bloated and has a horrible GUI and workflow! 
@damoog $36 for Cubasis!
@damoog $36 for Cubasis!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRist
- 102 posts since 25 Dec, 2011
Ok, I just watched the first three Cubasis tutorials. You're right, audiojunkie, the BM2 interface is kludgey by comparison. I'll definitely be getting Cubasis when it goes on sale.
Five places where I can still see an edge for Beatmaker 2 (or, at least, a reason to keep it on your device):
1. Sample slicing
2. MIDI CC automation (useful if you're recording hardware synths)
3. Creating new multisampled instruments
4. Time- and pitch-shifting
5. It works on iPhones and iPod Touches
Five places where I can still see an edge for Beatmaker 2 (or, at least, a reason to keep it on your device):
1. Sample slicing
2. MIDI CC automation (useful if you're recording hardware synths)
3. Creating new multisampled instruments
4. Time- and pitch-shifting
5. It works on iPhones and iPod Touches
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- KVRian
- 1498 posts since 21 Nov, 2005 from The Netherlands
So far none have rocked my boat ( BM2, Auria, Garageband ), maybe Cubasis will..
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- Banned
- 1583 posts since 19 Aug, 2011
Too bad the Cubasis discount isn't "sensational" enough for me. Oh well.
Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function | http://soundcloud.com/bmoorebeats
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- KVRAF
- 7198 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
A lot of people over at the Audiobus forums were hoping for a discount similar to the one that Auria just had. These people expressed similar sentiments.BMoore wrote:Too bad the Cubasis discount isn't "sensational" enough for me. Oh well.
Personally, since I paid full price, if I had a chance to do it all again, an opportunity like this would be wonderful! ....but that's just me.
--Sean
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 7198 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I tend to agree with you on these. As far as I know, a lot of these things are planned for Cubasis.dswo wrote:Ok, I just watched the first three Cubasis tutorials. You're right, audiojunkie, the BM2 interface is kludgey by comparison. I'll definitely be getting Cubasis when it goes on sale.
Five places where I can still see an edge for Beatmaker 2 (or, at least, a reason to keep it on your device):
1. Sample slicing
2. MIDI CC automation (useful if you're recording hardware synths)
3. Creating new multisampled instruments
4. Time- and pitch-shifting
5. It works on iPhones and iPod Touches
By the way, I wasn't aware that BM2 could do pitch shifting of looped audio....unless you are referring to adding the audio to the sampler...
--Sean
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)