KVR Audio

B4ckdraft · Post by **B4ckdraft** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:54 am

Hey guys I just had a quick question for you. I'm using FL Studio and whenever I try exporting a song to mp3 I go listen to it as the mp3 file and the mix sounds completely different. Certain sounds are louder/quieter than they are in the fl project. I don't know how to fix this does anyone have any ideas?

No_Use · Post by **No_Use** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:08 am

I'm not a FL user but some times I've seen this topic come up it was the following thing:

Are you using ASIO drivers with FL ?
Because when using ASIO the Windows mixer get bypassed but is active when you play a track via a mediaplayer.
So either it was some 'sound enhancing' settings engaged in Windows settings (or in the media player) or the Windows volume control wasn't fully turned up (quieter = perceived as bad/different).

So to check for this (if you're not sure), can you re-import the rendered mp3 in FL and play there, does it still sound different ?

Just a guess of course, if it's really as you say, completely different then it might probably be something else.

AstateMusic · Post by **AstateMusic** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:39 pm

Probably something to do with your sound driver that you are using. I use fl studio and when i export a using my NI audio 2 driver, its always sounds the same. however, if i arnt using a asio driver and just using the standard realtek driver, my mix can sometimes havnt slight amplitude differences.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:45 pm

If you're exporting a low quality mp3 it will sound different. Do you export at 320k? You could try exporting a Wav and then convert to mp3.

piel · Post by **piel** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:04 pm

+1 for the driver thingy. I would also recommend to export to wav and listen to that first. You should use external mp3 encoder anyway if you are concerned about quality. Check also your export optionsin FLS, they can make a huge difference. I think there is a whole thread on their forums about export quality problems and their causes.

No_Use · Post by **No_Use** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:11 pm

-1 to driver

The mix gets summed internally in the DAW when rendering without using the soundcard at all (that's why you could do a 24bit mixdown without having a 24bit soundcard for example)
If anything, driver could maybe affect when listening but not when exporting.

CableChannel · Post by **CableChannel** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:47 pm

Are you using an external instrument? And does your audio hardware have direct monitoring on for that external input? That would result in the problem you describe.

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:05 pm

+1 to the .mp3 mix thing.

piel · Post by **piel** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:03 pm

No_Use wrote:-1 to driver

The mix gets summed internally in the DAW when rendering without using the soundcard at all (that's why you could do a 24bit mixdown without having a 24bit soundcard for example)
If anything, driver could maybe affect when listening but not when exporting.

That is exactly what i meant. EAX or some other multimedia stuff can sound different without warning thus listening to the mp3 on a media player can differ from the DAW with ASIO.

piel · Post by **piel** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:06 pm

http://www.image-line.com/support/FLHel ... _audio.htm
It is basicly about defending the quality of FL Studio but you may find useful information regarding your problem.

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:08 pm

I've noticed this as well! Even an exported drumhit sounds super weak in wmp. I should try loading it in another asio daw and see how it sounds. Guess there's always the free youwashock if the comp is actually being lost

No_Use · Post by **No_Use** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:45 pm

piel wrote:
No_Use wrote:-1 to driver

The mix gets summed internally in the DAW when rendering without using the soundcard at all (that's why you could do a 24bit mixdown without having a 24bit soundcard for example)
If anything, driver could maybe affect when listening but not when exporting.
That is exactly what i meant. EAX or some other multimedia stuff can sound different without warning thus listening to the mp3 on a media player can differ from the DAW with ASIO.

Ah ok, sorry for misunderstanding.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:35 pm

mp3s always 'sound different. You can even export to wave then do that as an mp3 and you will notice a change. it's because mp3 compresses the music data and you lose certain frequencies.
http://thesession.org/discussions/19642

320kbps is the best way to go for mp3

The Drop · Post by **The Drop** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:49 pm

As said above, test first with a WAV export before using mp3.

HaganeSteel · Post by **HaganeSteel** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:22 pm

Edit: Ooh, wait, misunderstood something. Nevermind.

Mix sounds different after exporting