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Steinberg · Post by **Steinberg** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:12 am

Let's imagine - I have dry vocal of some track.
How to find scale of singing parts?

Is it good idea to play vocal in loop & try to play piano over those vocal?

thx

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:18 am

How to find scale of singing parts?

Get it by ear. What do you expect to find online to make this happen otherwise? What are you doing?

Steinberg · Post by **Steinberg** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:14 pm

I've got dry vocal & try to make different version of those track/remix.

DSmolken · Post by **DSmolken** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:36 am

Yeah, use your ear to play the vocal line's notes on piano, then see what notes you got and which note it all resolves to (which note sounds like it could be "the end" when you play it). Then you should know what notes the scale contains (maybe not all of them but most) and what the root is.

You could probably try something else, like running the vocals through autotune and see which scale makes the least difference in the sound, but that would probably take longer.

Steinberg · Post by **Steinberg** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:20 am

Thx, but what about the melody plays with 2 notes.
It's very popular last time.

It's part of some chords/triads?
...or maybe the intervals are the same, eg: melody with 1 note + 5th...?

DSmolken · Post by **DSmolken** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:25 am

Two notes makes it even easier. If you only have two notes then one of them will be your tonal center/tonic/root (though "root" is technically not the correct word to use here). You can then use any scale which has that note as the tonic and also contains the other note, but generally start with a minor or major scale to make it easy.

So let's say your notes are Bb and Db. Then you've got Bb minor. If the notes are Bb and F, then you can either do Bb minor or Bb major.

Steinberg · Post by **Steinberg** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:22 pm

Keep tryin'

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:35 pm

Neither of the two notes in question have to be the root/tonic. Hell, that would probably be boring anyway. It might be more interesting if, for example, they were the 7th or 9th over one chord, 3rd and 5th over another chord, etc. But, the most important thing is to start by figuring out what the two notes are, then determine which keys they will work in (probably many, since it's only two notes).

lewalani · Post by **lewalani** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:30 pm

Send it through DJ software like Virtual DJ home edition(free) and it will tell you the tempo as well as the key.

J.F.K. · Post by **J.F.K.** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:34 am

Steinberg wrote: Is it good idea to play vocal in loop & try to play piano over those vocal?

It is a much better idea, to import the audio into Melodyne or Cubase 7 or something similar and let it analyse.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:09 pm

If you can't do it by ear then find another hobby.

Rah · Post by **Rah** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:44 pm

I usually do it by listening and playing along with an instrument.

However, I've found Photosounder Spiral useful for finding the pitches. Just play the vocal through it and watch for which notes are present. Also useful for looking at tuning discrepancies

Making remix - how to choose correct/right scale for vocal?