KVR Audio

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:43 pm

and if yes - anyone want to take it on ???

in a thread about simsynth 2.7 standalone and simsynth live vsti ...

i wrote:.. i wonder if its actually possible to write a generic wrapper that would load those old standalone virtual synths as vst instruments (passing sequencer MIDI info to them and routing the audio back into the host) ???

just think ...

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quincy · Post by **quincy** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:41 pm

Hey Phz that is a f**king gem of an idea! I have no clue if it could be done, but i really hope it can. that would be fantastic!

Orangator ruled

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:43 pm

i reckon pm jorgen,give him five minutes and EXT will be able to do it!and make toast for krim

quincy · Post by **quincy** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:52 pm

vurt wrote:i reckon pm jorgen,give him five minutes and EXT will be able to do it!and make toast for krim

Good call john boy! Jorgen is the motherfucking coding machine! He'll sort it out

stefankuhn · Post by **stefankuhn** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:49 pm

Nice idea, pals, but sorry, I don't think something like this would be possible.

Why?

Without wanting to go too deep into technical jargon:

A normal windows application does not have an explicitly defined interface to the "outside world". Simply because an Application normally does not need such an interface, since it is supposed to run on itself, not within an environment (other than the operating system's API).

That's the main difference between an app and a shared library (DLL) and plug-in, IMO. The lack of an interface.

Which would be the point to "hook in" if you wanted to write a wrapper.

Only way to do it would be to wrap the whole Win32 API and actually "emulate" the Windows Environment for the standalone synth - then it could be done.

But I think you now get the picture...

An interesting idea though.

Best,
Stefan

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:12 pm

Couldn't you use a virtual audio cable to route the output from Simsynth into a sequencer?

stefankuhn · Post by **stefankuhn** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:45 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Couldn't you use a virtual audio cable to route the output from Simsynth into a sequencer?

Hehe. One could write an audio and midi device driver and use these 'virtual devices' in the standalone App.

Then write a special VST effect or synth plug-in that 'hooks' to these virtual devices and gets the audio buffers and midi data from them. That should be possible.

What a shitload of work, but what an idea...

Best,
Stefan

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:52 pm

stefankuhn wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Couldn't you use a virtual audio cable to route the output from Simsynth into a sequencer?
Hehe. One could write an audio and midi device driver and use these 'virtual devices' in the standalone App.

Then write a special VST effect or synth plug-in that 'hooks' to these virtual devices and gets the audio buffers and midi data from them. That should be possible.

What a shitload of work, but what an idea...

Best,
Stefan

Years ago, when I had NI Generator, it came with a virtual cable you could patch into a sequencer. That worked pretty well as I recall - I used to have fun running Generator patches using Sounder as a randomiser.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 5:23 pm

stefankuhn wrote:
What a shitload of work, but what an idea...

Best,
Stefan

well stop postin here and get busy

we need it by wednesday!

stefankuhn · Post by **stefankuhn** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:20 pm

vurt wrote: well stop postin here and get busy
we need it by wednesday!

That was funny.

Best,
Stefan

can this be done ???