Does Humor Belong in Music?
- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
strange question and tbh a bit of a strange response from you (no offense intended). There are so many types of humor to begin with, irony, sarcasm, parodies and such that it makes this a very broad question. Humor is natural, humor is different for different people, humor can be heartwarming and it can offensive. So I dont see how it can not be a part of music, I mean how do you control such a thing?
Music imo is often about expressing one's emotions, if a song can make you cry it seems to me that the antithesis needs to exist and music must be able to make you laugh as well. It just makes no sense to me to suggest that any emotion should not be a part of music. For instance, what about children's music? A child will not always appreciate complex compositions but love silly, funny simple songs. That imho by itself is a key part of development and learning
Just curious, does music belong in comedy?
Music imo is often about expressing one's emotions, if a song can make you cry it seems to me that the antithesis needs to exist and music must be able to make you laugh as well. It just makes no sense to me to suggest that any emotion should not be a part of music. For instance, what about children's music? A child will not always appreciate complex compositions but love silly, funny simple songs. That imho by itself is a key part of development and learning
Just curious, does music belong in comedy?
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- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
- 37536 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
That was a jokeaMUSEd wrote:No
- KVRAF
- 12261 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Humor does not belong in music discussions.aMUSEd wrote:That was a jokeaMUSEd wrote:No
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- KVRAF
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- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
You are what you is, and so am IHink wrote:strange question and tbh a bit of a strange response from you (no offense intended).
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
This should end the discussion
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
you are what I is?Numanoid wrote:You are what you is, and so am IHink wrote:strange question and tbh a bit of a strange response from you (no offense intended).
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- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
Huh? There is no humor in music, any music except parodies. Unless you're talking about classic negative stereotypes.
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- KVRAF
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- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Have I offended someone?RunBeerRun wrote:Unless you're talking about classic negative stereotypes.
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- KVRAF
- 2648 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
Even though I voted yes I must say that 99% of the time when someone tries to be funny in a song it's actually embarrassing. There are only very few musicians who can pull it off subtly and in a way that it really is funny.
Pere Ubu comes to mind as a positive example. This song from their latest album made me immediately grin when I heard it the first time.
Pere Ubu comes to mind as a positive example. This song from their latest album made me immediately grin when I heard it the first time.
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- KVRAF
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- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Unfortunately, you can't do that on stage anymorerobotmonkey wrote:Pere Ubu comes to mind as a positive example. This song from their latest album made me immediately grin when I heard it the first time.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
that's the thing about humor in music, if one hears the same joke over and over it starts being less funny or at least less likely to make them laugh as much. Speaking for myself only I listen to music I like often and music with a punchline so to speak will also be also less likely to make me laugh like the first time I heard it.robotmonkey wrote:Even though I voted yes I must say that 99% of the time when someone tries to be funny in a song it's actually embarrassing. There are only very few musicians who can pull it of subtly and in a way that it really is funny.
Pere Ubu comes to mind as a positive example. This song from their latest album made me immediately grin when I heard it the first time.
We think of hooks in music as something that catches our attention making us want to hear more (at least that's how it is for me), humor can be that hook. Take Zappa and Joes Garage, when I was young and first heard it of course I laughed, then came the phase of playing it for my friends for the first time and laughing with them. But after a while we didn't all sit around and laugh like we did when it was new. Some of those friends will go on to say years later, "wow I haven't heard that in ages" (and probably laugh again). But with myself as a musician I found so much more to appreciate about Frank Zappa's music that it continued to hold my attention. The humor was the hook...of course YMMV and humor is so subjective it makes it harder but that's my P.O.V
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