Monophonic Key Modes Question
- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
i've noticed on some Reaktor ensembles and some software synths (like those in Caustic) that the monophonic key mode seems inconsistent with what i experience most everywhere else. In most cases, when you trigger a note by a key press, and then a second key press, the second note replaces the first, and if the first note's key is still being pressed, releasing the second note will return the synth to playing the original note (either re-triggering the envelopes or not). No brainer. It seems to be standard.
But then there are synths that don't do it (again, some Reaktor ensembles and everything in Caustic). In these, when you release the second key the thing just goes silent. It doesn't re-trigger the previous note. Is this even an accepted key mode or is it a failure on the part of the programmers? If it IS a standard mode, what is it called? What is the name of the behavior i am expecting? Legato?
Sorry for asking what might be a really basic question, but i rarely have to deal with this and i finally decided to do some reading on it and i cannot find anything that explains it (usually when a synth behaves this way, it's a poorly made SynthEdit/Reaktor freebie and i delete it; but sometimes i LIKE the synth and want to make it behave). Most synths all behave the same. Only when this inconsistency shows up do i wonder if there's a name for this mode and how to look for the controls/settings to make it behave the way i'm used to a monophonic mode typically working.
Thanks!
But then there are synths that don't do it (again, some Reaktor ensembles and everything in Caustic). In these, when you release the second key the thing just goes silent. It doesn't re-trigger the previous note. Is this even an accepted key mode or is it a failure on the part of the programmers? If it IS a standard mode, what is it called? What is the name of the behavior i am expecting? Legato?
Sorry for asking what might be a really basic question, but i rarely have to deal with this and i finally decided to do some reading on it and i cannot find anything that explains it (usually when a synth behaves this way, it's a poorly made SynthEdit/Reaktor freebie and i delete it; but sometimes i LIKE the synth and want to make it behave). Most synths all behave the same. Only when this inconsistency shows up do i wonder if there's a name for this mode and how to look for the controls/settings to make it behave the way i'm used to a monophonic mode typically working.
Thanks!
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- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
For me, releasing the 2nd note and having silence is a necessity, the other way is a flaw. I use a guitar, and can't have hanging notes.
I'm also not sure of the actual name for it.
I'm also not sure of the actual name for it.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
That's certainly a good time for that mode. i have messed with guitar as MIDI input via Roland VG-99 and i found note release to be an issue since strings can still subtly vibrate after pulling your fingers off them, presenting unwanted synth notes. Though it generally does a decent job of recognizing subtle vibrations vs intentional plucks.
However... with keys, which are my primary input method... it feels terribly unnatural, and a bumped key that might not be audible, will cut out the intended note prematurely. Heh... i kind of thought that monophonic mode was an intentional aid for sloppy players like myself that aren't doing polyphonic tracks...
However... with keys, which are my primary input method... it feels terribly unnatural, and a bumped key that might not be audible, will cut out the intended note prematurely. Heh... i kind of thought that monophonic mode was an intentional aid for sloppy players like myself that aren't doing polyphonic tracks...
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- KVRAF
- 6467 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
Is the behavior consistent no matter if the second key is higher or lower than the first key?Jace-BeOS wrote:In these, when you release the second key the thing just goes silent. It doesn't re-trigger the previous note.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
- KVRAF
- 6467 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
That rules out low note priority which is a weird "feature" of the MiniMoog.
I would say it's a bug. Get in touch with the developer and see if it can be fixed.
I would say it's a bug. Get in touch with the developer and see if it can be fixed.
