mono/fury versus korg mono/poly

[fabi]

which one do you guys suggest? one is free, the other one currently for a few more days very affordable.
mono/fury left the paraphonic mode in place, i am unsure about the korg vst. does the korg mono/poly vst have a paraphonic mode, sorta like the oddity with its duophonic mode?

[crimsonwarlock]

Download the free mono/fury and see what it can do. If you like it, you saved yourself some money

[fabi]

looks like i might have indeed saved myself some money. i was looking for the paraphonic 'feature' and since mono/fury has it, korg's contestant doesn't need to apply. Or are the added modulation thingies worth the price of admission?

[BlackWinny]

which one do you guys suggest? one is free, the other one currently for a few more days very affordable.
mono/fury left the paraphonic mode in place, i am unsure about the korg vst. does the korg mono/poly vst have a paraphonic mode, sorta like the oddity with its duophonic mode?

Yes.

• Page 9 of the original Mono/Poly manual (page 13 of the PDF)
• Page 17 of the KLC Mono/Poly manual (page 21 of the PDF)

And in practice I like both, Mono/Fury as well as the KLC Mono/Poly. Both have their qualities.

[fabi]

thanks for the replies and thanks for the clarification, blackwinny. Since the KLC mono/poly also retains the paraphonic mode it does look interesting to me, again. Still, I am probably gonna save my money and stay with the KLC MS-20 and fullbucket's Mono/Fury for now. I really like the shared/unison poly mode on the mono/fury.

gonna save my money for another license of the zaquencer. can hardly wait.

[BlackWinny]

thanks for the replies and thanks for the clarification, blackwinny. Since the KLC mono/poly also retains the paraphonic mode it does look interesting to me, again. Still, I am probably gonna save my money and stay with the KLC MS-20 and fullbucket's Mono/Fury for now. I really like the shared/unison poly mode on the mono/fury.

gonna save my money for another license of the zaquencer. can hardly wait.

That seems a good combination of choices. Many possibilities with that. I would just add... Nabla!

[fluffy_little_something]

Does Mono Fury even emulate the original sound? The Korg sounds close to the hardware, obviously, but I am not so sure about the Mono Fury. Maybe it uses the "standard" Full Bucket sound combined with the Mono Poly user interface

[BlackWinny]

No, really I find it convincing. I know the three "versions": the original hardware, the KLC version, and the version from Björn, and frankly it bears comparison.

You know... a software emulation made by someone who has the service manuals (without them a software synth can only be "inspired by") can be as accurate as a software emulation by the original brand. It is a question of deep knowledge in electronics as well as in IT development, plus the equipment (somewhat expansive, not a single multimeter) for the analysis of the signal at all steps in the owned hardware, plus an excellent knowledge and practice of the hardware to emulate, then a question of serious and willpower... and of months of white nights.

[filter303]

I noticed some differences when I compared these two plugins.

When you add resonance with the Monopoly plugin the output level gets louder, while Monofury does the opposite. If you add resonance in Monofury it will attenuate the output level. Other differences that I noticed is that Korg oscillators sound brighter.

If you use high resonance on both synths, Monopoly will retain a pleasant sound while Monofury starts to sound very piercing. It's also easy to hear steps when you move the filter in Monofury.

Korg also has a very good unison mode, more polished GUI and a also a nice variety of built in fx.
There is also more soundbanks available for the Korg version.

I made the same one oscillator test sound for both synths and playing one note consumed 0.04% for Monofury and 0.19% for Monopoly (@96khz). Korg synths are very well known for their low cpu consumption but Monofury is on another level when compared to Monopoly; the cpu usage is almost five times less. This is only area where I would choose Monofury over Monopoly.

If I had to choose between these two I would definitely choose Monopoly for the reasons I listed. Another question is that are the differences worth the price is up to you. Monofury is nice for a free plugin, especially if you don't have a powerful computer.
For me the Korg Bundle was money well spent.

[Full Bucket]

Thanks for your comparison, quite interesting!
Typically, people compare the plug-in with the original hardware, but of course that's difficult nowadays if you don't have the hardware around...
Just a comment: On my hardware Mono/Poly the output gets "lower" when you add resonance; in fact the bass frequencies get dampened.

Cheers, Björn

[crimsonwarlock]

I would just add... Nabla!

I would add Ragnarök ... to be honest, Mono/fury has been my goto synth for leads since Björn released it first. I bought a Teisco 110F when I couldn't afford the Mono/Poly that stood next to it in the shop (both second hand) and regretted not somehow snatching that Mono/Poly after that. I also regretted getting rid of my Teisco eventually. Both regrets where done with when Björn released Mono/Fury. However, although I still love Mono/Fury, it is no longer my goto for leads: that spot is now firmly occupied by Ragnarök

As for Nabla, I used to have a Korg Delta and I didn't really like it.Sold it eventually and got a ESQ-1 instead (which is also long gone and replaced by SQ8L). I like Nabla for the instrument it is, but still don't care much for the instrument it is emulating. I like The Deputy much more, and that one is my goto for vintage string ensemble sounds.

[Turello]

I have both but i like Mono/fury instead of mono/poly..!

[fabi]

already downloaded and play bit with ragnarök. really enjoying it and mono/fury. never knew about mono/fury till a few days ago, when i researched the korg's klc mono/poly vst.

enjoying both of these synths a lot.

still, the ms-20 is the one i love the most. could be, because i own one of those dedicated ms-20 ic controllers.

[BlackWinny]

I would just add... Nabla!

I would add Ragnarök ... to be honest, Mono/fury has been my goto synth for leads since Björn released it first. I bought a Teisco 110F when I couldn't afford the Mono/Poly that stood next to it in the shop (both second hand) and regretted not somehow snatching that Mono/Poly after that. I also regretted getting rid of my Teisco eventually. Both regrets where done with when Björn released Mono/Fury. However, although I still love Mono/Fury, it is no longer my goto for leads: that spot is now firmly occupied by Ragnarök

As for Nabla, I used to have a Korg Delta and I didn't really like it.Sold it eventually and got a ESQ-1 instead (which is also long gone and replaced by SQ8L). I like Nabla for the instrument it is, but still don't care much for the instrument it is emulating. I like The Deputy much more, and that one is my goto for vintage string ensemble sounds.

I agree, Hans.

I added Nabla simply to remind that for someone who is "focused Korg stuff", Björn had made Nabla to add to the Korg collection of such user.


I really love Ragnarök now that I can use it with the skin I made.

And Deputy Mark II is much more comprehensive than Nabla, yes. I like them as well. Nabla has really a "personal charm". With Deputy Mark in fact my only problem is the background colors of the GUI. I have made a preset for my BCR2000 but it remains a bit tedious because Deputy Mark contains many, many, many features. I'm impatient to see if Björn will make a skinnable version of Deputy Mark. It will be the nirvana for me if one day he makes it.

[filter303]

Just a comment: On my hardware Mono/Poly the output gets "lower" when you add resonance

This is also my experience on most analog synths I have played. In fact I can't remember any of my analog synths doing the same thing that Korg Monopoly plugin does with it's resonance volume boost.