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Steinberg Cubase VST 3.7

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The latest PC version of Steinberg's popular sequencing package incorporates a number of significant new features, including the long-awaited VST 2 and ASIO 2

Version 3.7 of Cubase VST for Windows has been eagerly awaited by PC Musicians for some time. It was first showcased at Frankfurt back in March of this year, but four months is a long time to wait when you've had some goodies waved at you and then been told to be patient. In fact, I was rather surprised when it was announced that 3.7 would be another free update for existing users, since it incorporates far more than most people would expect of an update. Moreover, version 4.1 for the Mac should also be available by the time you read this, and its new features are nearly all identical with those of the 3.7 PC version reviewed here.

For many people, the most interesting new feature in Cubase 3.7 will be VST Instruments. The new VST 2.0 specification allows plug-ins to receive MIDI data, which lets you automate effects via MIDI commands. However, before you rush off to try it, I must point out that only plug-ins written with VST 2.0 in mind will do this -- existing ones won't magically gain these functions.

If a VST 2.0 plug-in supports MIDI input, it will appear in the list of available MIDI outputs when you activate it, so that you can send it automation data. The ability to automate plug-ins via MIDI may not, of itself, sound like such an thrilling feature, but it's the other uses to which this architecture can be put that are creating excitement. Since you can now send MIDI data into a plug-in, it is possible to create stand-alone software synthesizers, samplers or drum machines that act as complete VST Instruments in their own right. Rather than attempting to run a stand-alone virtual instrument, moreover, VST 2.0 lets third-party developers use the Cubase VST engine instead. For the first time this means that rather than having to run a software synth on a second soundcard to avoid conflicts, you can let VST run it alongside your other audio tracks, all on the same soundcard.

If you have a soundcard with a low-latency ASIO driver then you will have the same low latency when playing a VST Instrument in real time. However, anyone running MME drivers (or indifferent ASIO ones) will find it difficult to 'play' the synth in real time if their latency is greater than about 25mS. This only applies during recording; during playback Cubase takes account of latency automatically.

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So what is your point with this? Talking about history?

Cubase VST 3.7 seems to be from 1999 while the latest official Cubase version is Cubase Pro 8.0.5.
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Not that there's anything wrong with talking about, or even using older versions of Cubase. I have no need for the newest version of Cubase 8 myself, legacy versions are fine by me....

But what IS the point? You're saying you still use it? You're saying you need nothing more?

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I loved Cubase VST5... :love:
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Ingonator wrote:So what is your point with this? Talking about history?

Cubase VST 3.7 seems to be from 1999
Cubase VST 3.7 is so 20th century!
Peace and tolerance

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Shout out to Guillermo Navarrete... (you know exactly where and what I aim at!)

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These are the Cubase boxes I still have, and I did actually start with Cubase for Windows mid 1990s. It's time to trim some boxes, especially if the future is DLC. So it's definitely been a while (over 20 years at this point), and I have a lot of fond memories with hardware synths/effects and Cubase 3.7... not to mention that there were still(!) versions other than .2 max and ".0/.5 jumps".


Else, I've also yet to understand the OP's message other than for nostalgia issues.
Maybe it was supposed to be posted in the "first Windows DAW" thread?
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Man, is that a blast from the past. I remember when that came out, though for some reason, i seem to remember it looking a bit more metallic.
That aside, LM-4 was the first vsti i ever bought!
Ingonator wrote: Cubase VST 3.7 seems to be from 1999 while the latest official Cubase version is Cubase Pro 8.0.5.
Yes, it went cubase (atari) v1-2, then cubase audio (v1-2), then VST 3-5 (PC skipped version 4...mac was a version ahead, iirc), then they started all over with SX.
They're actually around v15 or so. :)
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It's times like this that I wish I could dig out my Atari ST Notator and Emagic Logic 2 boxes. They actually felt worth the money I spent on them. I think the last boxed Cubase update I bought was version 6. Everything since has been digital.

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Ingonator wrote:So what is your point with this? Talking about history?

Cubase VST 3.7 seems to be from 1999 while the latest official Cubase version is Cubase Pro 8.0.5.
Why does it bother you that he posted this?

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kelldammit wrote: That aside, LM-4 was the first vsti i ever bought!
The LM-4 was one of the 1st VSTi's I ever used, along with the VB-1 bass, both utter crap, but was great for learning how to use midi & VSTi's. Being an audio guy, it took me a very LONG time to wrap my head around the world of midi & VSTi's.
SODDI wrote:
Ingonator wrote:So what is your point with this? Talking about history?

Cubase VST 3.7 seems to be from 1999 while the latest official Cubase version is Cubase Pro 8.0.5.
Why does it bother you that he posted this?
I didn't see it as anyone bothered, but saw it as what I had thought...simply curious as to what the OP's POINT was, since he left us hanging, and eagerly waiting :hyper:

I got into using a computer to record with, coming from my Tascam 246 cassette recorder, straight into Cubase VST 5/32 :)

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how did people control vst instruments before 2.0?!??!?!

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What do you mean "control VST instruments before 2.0"?

Cubase 3.7 introduced VSTi in the first place (which was possible with the "VST 2.0" engine update - prior to that: hardware only!), and controlling was not with "rubber band automation" but actually with "stepped" bars from the piano view or the "automation window" (in like 1/128 steps or so. Didn't look pretty, but it worked like it should.

Automation was a "huge thing" with SX1, which was where the "rubber band automation" was introduced. Then things got drastically more simple. Sadly, SX1 and SX2 (until the 2.2 release a couple of weeks prior to the "it's getting hot in here" SX3 guerrilla release) ignored a lot of hardware for the hardware users. So controling external gear was really cumbersome with the first "SX" versions.

Automating FX like EQ and stuff was never an issue or even a "thing" until then.



(personal experience)


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Come to think of it, the upgrade cycles for "old Cubase" versions were way shorter. I don't remember this anymore, but if i can trust Wikipedia, Cubase 3.7 was released July 1999, and Cubase 5.0 already in 2000. 2002 arrived SX1, 2003 was SX2, SX3 hit in 2004 and we then started the 2 year upgrade cycle, while by Cubase 6, every following year was a "pair upgrade". In 2006, Cubase got renamed to simply "Cubase" again. Now we're at Cubase 8.

Time flies...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubase

And I thought I bridged a longer time from VST5 to SX3, not to mention that fellows laughed at me while "waiting that long" to jump on SX3. :shrug:
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TrekStar wrote:I loved Cubase VST5... :love:
+1
I remember one morning driving into work, stuck in traffic, thinking 'I love Cubase'
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but that's true..

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Compyfox wrote:What do you mean "control VST instruments before 2.0"?
I thought it said that 2.0 instruments could finally accept midi input?

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Just awful!...no happy nostalgia here. :)

I still have my old .ALL projects somewhere. Which I can't play back ofcourse, because old Cubase didn't save any audio with the projects. MIDI works fine though. :)

No real undo for audio. If you made a change to an audio clip it was changed forever. The original file that is! Even if you imported
the audio from elsewhere Cubase often destroyed it and therefor also all other projects using the same audio sample. :)

SX1 changed all that. But SX wasn't really good enough until SX3...

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