When it is 'too old'
- KVRist
- 115 posts since 8 Jun, 2007
Hi guys
In your opinion, is there anything like 'too old' in music business ?
Some of you will say - 'there is not as long as you are having fun' but I'm talking here from a practical point of view.
To be specific - im talking about hearing. Many occupations related to music depend on it - mixing engineers come to mind - i would like to know how older people cope with hearing loss, which sooner or later will creep in.
Is there any upper age limit when you just have to say STOP ?
When you think of it - almost everything related to creative part of music business depends on hearing in some way - so, when it is too late ?
In your opinion, is there anything like 'too old' in music business ?
Some of you will say - 'there is not as long as you are having fun' but I'm talking here from a practical point of view.
To be specific - im talking about hearing. Many occupations related to music depend on it - mixing engineers come to mind - i would like to know how older people cope with hearing loss, which sooner or later will creep in.
Is there any upper age limit when you just have to say STOP ?
When you think of it - almost everything related to creative part of music business depends on hearing in some way - so, when it is too late ?
- KVRAF
- 16858 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
It's never too late. B.B. King was still performing at the age of 89.
Deaf composers can still work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_va ... of_hearing
Deaf artists do still work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Town ... aring_loss
But if you're an engineer and you lose hearing above 12 kHz, then you'd better have good assistants
I once read an interview with a mixing engineer (sorry I forgot his name) that lost all hearing in one ear. He was still mixing very good albums: delivered a mix in mono and assistants had to do the panning.
Deaf composers can still work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_va ... of_hearing
Deaf artists do still work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Town ... aring_loss
But if you're an engineer and you lose hearing above 12 kHz, then you'd better have good assistants
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- KVRian
- 1374 posts since 30 Mar, 2011
Concerning the business part: Marketing gets rather difficult if you're beyond 40 these days. Kids normally don't want to listen to their grandparent's music (except for David Guetta of course). 
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
- KVRAF
- 5391 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Its all about creatively managing your own unique and ever-changing mix of awesomeness and limitations. Dont think you can generalize.
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Those trying to chat up groupies with jokes like: Do you know the weather in Mexico: Chili today, Hot tamalePHassan wrote:In your opinion, is there anything like 'too old' in music business ?
That's too old
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
- KVRAF
- 8237 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
Andre Rieu disagrees and probably* outsells all the EDM put together.2ZrgE wrote:Concerning the business part: Marketing gets rather difficult if you're beyond 40 these days.
* or probably not
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- KVRian
- 1374 posts since 30 Mar, 2011
Yes it's all about the target audience. Andre Rieu sure is a sex symbol for women beyond 50 (and without musical taste).tehlord wrote:Andre Rieu disagrees and probably* outsells all the EDM put together.2ZrgE wrote:Concerning the business part: Marketing gets rather difficult if you're beyond 40 these days.
* or probably not
But seems that the OP is more interest in engineering and such.
- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Unfortunately too many of BBC personell did the sameBERFAB wrote:Groucho Marx said, "A man is only as old as the woman he feels."
I'd go with that.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
I think I had a similar thread some time ago because I did one of those hearing tests and of course it is not what it used to be 30 years ago. My hearing stops at about 15kHz or even less. Luckily I never went to clubs, discos, nor do I listen to loud music at home. So given my age I am happy with those 14.5 to 15 kHz.
I doubt many sounds in the music I like are above that frequency anyway. I mean, I listen mostly to the same songs as 30 years ago, and they don't sound muffled or anything. Well, maybe they do and I just don't notice it anymore because I have gradually grown used to it over the decades
I doubt many sounds in the music I like are above that frequency anyway. I mean, I listen mostly to the same songs as 30 years ago, and they don't sound muffled or anything. Well, maybe they do and I just don't notice it anymore because I have gradually grown used to it over the decades
- KVRAF
- 44140 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Music sounds so bad these days, you could probably get away with it even if you had no ears. Just make sausage shaped mixes and masters and you're done.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.