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garryknight · Post by **garryknight** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:41 pm

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2015/10 ... 5-present/

It seems that a great many styles of music are of decreasing interest, but interest in EDM continues to rise. Discuss. Or not.

cocoazenith · Post by **cocoazenith** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:45 pm

It's no suprise for me. I think it reflect the technological times we are living.
Blame it on the internet

Chapelle · Post by **Chapelle** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:24 pm

klavierr · Post by **klavierr** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:35 pm

It should be noted that an unusually large number of Google Trends searches appear to decline in popularity from 2004-present. I think that it is a misinterpretation, since the number of people searching things was smaller 10 years ago, the volume of searches for a single query would appear to be larger, even though it is numerically not.

example- if 100 people searched "computer" in 2004 out of 300 searches total, that number would be really high, especially since more geeky people used google in 2004, compared to 6,000 people searching it in 2015 out of 30,000 total. the number of searches increased but the graph would still show a decline.

I find it weird that google fails to point this out.

But with things like "rock music" the decline totally makes sense.

ras.s · Post by **ras.s** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:54 pm

If Google Trends is to be trusted, then reggae and dub were, are and shall be the focus of more interest than other genres:

And no surprise really, since they are more interesting.

:-P

garryknight · Post by **garryknight** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:06 am

Four posts on the subject. And each of them seems to make more sense than the original article. But what I noticed most was that they didn't appear to define the boundaries of EDM, which is a much wider category than most of the others, IMO. A lot of modern pop music, especially given the way it's produced, could be labelled EDM. And many soft rock numbers could be considered pop music.

ras.s · Post by **ras.s** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:37 am

It is such a broad categorisation that it doesn't make any sense. All genres succumb to it and then create a new self-identity from that. EDM doesn't have a history like other genres have, which can be pin-pointed to a point in history or to geographical location -- it wasn't given birth to by artists, but by big money. The three descriptors, "electronic dance music", come on, that has been done pretty much since the time we've had electronic instruments. EDM defies any definition, because it is everything that is electronic dance music. To me, to call it a genre on its own right, it's artificial.

Consider this quote from the Wikipedia article about EDM: "Corporate consolidation in the EDM industry began in 2012—especially in terms of live events. In June 2012, media executive Robert F. X. Sillerman—founder of what is now Live Nation—re-launched SFX Entertainment as an EDM conglomerate, and announced his plan to invest $1 billion to acquire EDM businesses."

Look how that coincides with the Google Trends results. Electronic dance music has always been around, but 2012 was when EDM was born and it wasn't by artists. Artists at that time probably were still doing their own thing, labeling their music how they saw fitting. But now, there's people doing EDM and they're doing a bit of everything, but nothing specifically. You say to a friend, listen to this EDM tune, and it can be anything.

Or atleast that's how I see it, I have near-zero interest in what's called EDM.

Though, I consider this the original EDM, straight from the year 1985:

Is it electronic dance music? Damn right it is. Is it EDM? No way, man.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:49 am

Wait. Is Google Trends suggesting that people asking Google "WTF is [term]" equates to popularity of the subject??

ras.s · Post by **ras.s** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:55 am

It does measure interest, surely. The OP and the article mix up popularity and interest.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:52 am

I can see that Trance is eating it's own tail, becoming less trancy and more EDMish. Trannce has also been a bandwagon forrandom crap and it's name has devaluated, being used to describe dozens of different styles

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:29 am

Chapelle wrote:The graphs on the link in the OP don't show any absolute terms. So I did a comparison with Google Trends myself.

1. Comparison with Pop, EDM, Rock, Hip-Hop and Classical. As you can see, EDM is still way behind other genres:

Can't see the whole labels - did you put "Electronic music" or "Electronic Dance Music". It is possible people got the 2 things confused.

Chapelle · Post by **Chapelle** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:38 pm

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:00 pm

No wonder, these days EDM comes up so often in casual convo's, even people who think they know what does it stands for realize they actually don't, so Googling it is unavoidable.

tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:26 am

If you start categorizing sub genre's what eventually happens is you marginalize every genre to extremely small values. Rock has many sub genre's too it. Rockabilly, Surf, British Invasion, Psychedelic, Folk-Rock, Glam and on and on and on. While the difference between EDM and Electronic Music may seem vast to you it's important to remember that many people listen to a variety of music. I listen to Blues(all), Jazz(all), Rock(most), Bluegrass(all) and a few more.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:35 pm

If you start categorizing sub genre's what eventually happens is you marginalize every genre to extremely small values.

There are 500 trance tracks released on Beatport every week. This excludes psytrance, and others. Which doesn't mean they are all the same or even they have much in common.

I don't see how this is small.

How many new rock, blues etc. tracks did you try last week?

The popularity of music genres 2005-present