KVR Audio

Bereket · Post by **Bereket** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:28 am

There was a thread titled "If you only had one choice" what do you chose for propellerheads to upgrade for reason 9? and I posted, Why not all like studio one instead of one. And some other guys liked the post and times goes by and the thread resurrected once again and people started to give their thought. But what I have said is deleted from the thread. Now this got me thinking, What is the difference between the old forum and this one?

I remember me saying that PH will ask you for version 9 130 for darker GUI and one new synth. and my comment doesn't even stays 5 minutes it just got deleted by PH forum admins. I believe on this Reason talk forum they are just using some developers name as a cover and the new forum is ruled by same old Propellerheads HQ regulation. If you say something bad about the DAW or PH 20 faithful users and PH workers will stand up to eat you alive. and your comment will get deleted or that thread doesn't even stays on front page. They will kill it by posting too much baby crap threads. Or by resurrecting old dead threads.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:47 am

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Bereket · Post by **Bereket** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:58 am

presonus studio one version 2 to 3 upgrade was like a new DAW most of the instruments was upgraded and pointed out instead of asking i.e Mclass or Malstrom or Combinator to be upgraded why not like studio one 3 upgrades all new level. I hope you got what I mean now Theo.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:09 am

Reason forums are for Reason. Not every other DAW around. Cakewalk's forum is pretty much the same thing.

People go to Reasontalk to get help on Reason.

Simple, n'est pas?

Bereket · Post by **Bereket** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:25 am

pas du tout. If you see what I said was the upgrade to be like studio one 3. To change old Instruments we had since version 3 the Mclass etc to a new one. This shouldn't have to be deleted unless propllerheads still they don't need to upgrade those builtin instruments and FX unit. On that thread page 1, me saying upgrade all and liked by few people shows the eagerness of the users and by deleting my post, it will show only people with a perception of Upgrade Mclass, Upgrade Combinator, Upgrade Sample loading, Upgrade Video e.t.c
Still makes user to expect only one new thing rather than a few new extra goodies for the upgrade.

Bereket · Post by **Bereket** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:42 am

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:14 pm

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trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:49 pm

My suggestion to you, bereket, is to use the lock button on the bottom right hand of your original post and ask your questions on another thread.

What I am saying is that you have confusing information that is cluttering up what you are trying to get at.

Besides, I don't think that coming here to accuse(?) Propellerheads of "taking" over Reasontalk is useful.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:15 pm

Bereket wrote:There was a thread titled "If you only had one choice" what do you chose for propellerheads to upgrade for reason 9? and I posted, Why not all like studio one instead of one. And some other guys liked the post and times goes by and the thread resurrected once again and people started to give their thought. But what I have said is deleted from the thread. Now this got me thinking, What is the difference between the old forum and this one?

I remember me saying that PH will ask you for version 9 130 for darker GUI and one new synth. and my comment doesn't even stays 5 minutes it just got deleted by PH forum admins. I believe on this Reason talk forum they are just using some developers name as a cover and the new forum is ruled by same old Propellerheads HQ regulation. If you say something bad about the DAW or PH 20 faithful users and PH workers will stand up to eat you alive. and your comment will get deleted or that thread doesn't even stays on front page. They will kill it by posting too much baby crap threads. Or by resurrecting old dead threads.

Is there any evidence, apart from your deleted post, which isn't actually evidence, that PH are in any way affiliated with that forum? Because if there isn't, i'd refrain from forging conspiracy theories which really help noone. I'm registered there for a while now, and i don't see any indication that it's run by others than some Reason enthusiasts. It's a nice forum btw, with a nice atmosphere. Not the usual "bash on" mentality which is present in other forums. Even a totally off thread where someone claimed that Reasons sound suck wasn't bashed on, or caused drama, but actually resulted in a fair and square discussion, and the guy who claimed that Reasons sound suck refrained from saying so, and admitted that it's probably also his own fault a little.

I really like the people there, they're good folks. I really can't see how it would be anything like the way you described.

Bereket · Post by **Bereket** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:12 pm

I can't get you an evidence cause It is already deleted. In fact I went through the like that I got and that was also deleted. If you brought up critical point about the weakness of Reason you will be deleted not immediately but after a few days later once you forgotten about that post. So new comers when they go to that place they will believe that that place and the DAW is flawless. that's what I thought so that's what I experienced.

For me "Reason sound Sucks" Thread is the other conspiracy thread that I have ever seen. While a person who has his own Reason forum just stand up and said that, for me it is kind of fishy. If I say that, I will be given a bunch of warning as if I insulted the forum and Reason DAW. Sending me links of the forum rule and stuff like that.

For some reason they wanted to picture that place like it is some kind of peaceful and democrat place to discus. i.e you just brought "Reason Sound Sucks" as an example, but for me they are just playing mind games to show people how good that place is. To be honest a fair place that I have ever seen to talk about the truth is KVR. Other websites they delete stuffs if they just get paid by the Company. That is why I said it is controlled by the Company except it has its own site.

stroker_ace · Post by **stroker_ace** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:19 pm

If anything, I think the most vocal cheerleaders/defenders on that board could be sponsored, or employed by Propellerheads without admitting it.

Rather than a conspiracy theory, it's actually the most sane explanation, as there are 3-4 people on that board with a cult-like devotion to all things Propellerheads that is truly frightening.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:29 pm

Could be like any other DAW though. There are fans everywhere.

BrokenTrance · Post by **BrokenTrance** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:46 pm

Propellerhead! Give us clip launch/session view and easy sidechain.

Thanks in advance.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:49 pm

Yeah. Actually the sheer thought that somone on that forum could be employed by PH is a bit humorous, considering the yearly volume of sales of the company. I mean, come on... PH is not Google, Apple of Microsoft. They're a small company. I think i read that they have 30 employees. 30. That's a average company in my small town. And even for big companies like Google, it's pretty unlikely that they hired a horde of internet sockpuppets to cheer folks up. People on the net are not THAT important after all. And they surely don't represent the average of product users. The average of product users sit in their studio doing this:

not this:

or this:

Orbit-50 · Post by **Orbit-50** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:02 pm

Bereket wrote: For some reason they wanted to picture that place like it is some kind of peaceful and democrat place to discus.

In stark contrast to the old forum which was nothing more than a toilet bowl filled with bullies and whiners. I think ReasonTalk forum is awesome because they don't allow it to become what the old Propellerhead Forum was. You can go there at any time and it's not flamethread after flamethread caused by the usual suspects. It's kept in check by the mods and that's a great thing.

So this Reason talk forum is ruled by Propellerheads after all