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ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:46 pm

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evanallen · Post by **evanallen** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:27 pm

Thanks for setting this up TheoM, we're definitely interested to see how this goes!

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:35 pm

Never use the gate anyway with v5, so i have no issue with the removal. What i hate is the reverb removed since they're mid/side and i like to use them a little when i get a really dry mix file.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:46 pm

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evanallen · Post by **evanallen** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:53 pm

I'll be keeping an eye out and passing along all feedback, thanks all!

Best,
-EA

sounddesigner · Post by **sounddesigner** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:27 pm

I definitely hated with a passion when Izotope removed the gate from Ozone and complained to them many times. Would love if they brought it back since it really made the dynamics section a lot more powerfull and flexible. Ozone's gate was the most flexible I seen and being integrated in Ozone with all its other modules it could easily be used in tandem with the other dynamics. A Gate is a dynamic processor and Ozone has a dynamics section, also Ozone is used for Mixing as well so I don't understand Izotope's reasons for removing the gate wich I believe made Ozone more powerfull and flexible. I hope no other modules important to me are removed.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:37 pm

I'm in the "didn't notice it was gone/didn't care" camp. Then again, I use Ozone exclusively as a mastering tool and never had a need for the gate. I realize that others use it as more of a Swiss army knife, so I can understand why they'd be upset. So, hopefully Izotope brings it back for their sake.

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:49 am

There isn't an option for me to vote honestly so i haven't. I don't own Ozone, never have, but i am certainly a potential customer considering the producer pack upgrade. While I don't know if I'd use the gate function for mastering, part of the appeal of Ozone Advanced is the individual processor plugins which i could imagine myself using for mixing purposes. In that instance, having some sort of gating feature would be useful.

I'm always looking for ways to maximise volume while retaining the excitement of dynamic range, combining gating/expansion with compression is certainly one way to achieve this. In a multiband setup, i could foresee having access to both as particularly useful for achieving extra impact on subs or more definition on high frequency percussion. In fact, there could even be occasions when this may be advantageous during the mastering phase.

While I can kinda understand the removal of the reverb module, it seems particularly odd that any dynamics processing would be removed from a plugin suite of the nature of Ozone.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:34 am

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ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:36 am

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mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:16 am

I think you're right actually. My vote has been cast.

The title of the thread led me to think the poll was geared toward people who already owned a version of Ozone. Guess i didn't read the options properly.

Arrested Developer · Post by **Arrested Developer** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:40 am

I totally miss the gate function and i think it was a great fault to remove it.

My point is:
While Ozone is "officially" a mastering tool, it can also be fantastic on busses. (For me it's standard to have different busses with ozone (5).
Now i often work with lots of overdubs of single musicians for choirs (or to get bigger string or brass sections by overdubbing the musicians). The gate option was perfect for a slight noise reduction; different settings for the bands allow a perfect control within seconds; with normal noisegates this wouldn't work.

Also, with field recordings (and foleys, soundeffects etc) it often happens, that noises in some frequency ranges are just disturbing the mix.

Now, that CPUs are much more powerful than some years ago (i use ozone since version 3), i think it should be worth considering the fact that ozone is much more than just a mastering processor...
(also, in ozone advanced i would love to see just this module).

I know that nectar and alloy cover some of these needs, but for this task i prefer ozone.
That's the reason why ozone 5 is still the version i use most (skipped 6)

btw. i also miss the reverb. Still haven't found a plate that sounds better as an additional nuance on brass samples.

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:39 pm

When iZotope say that their customers don't use a certain feature, how exactly do they determine that? I'm not sure you can even correlate between frequency of use and importance anyway. I haven't actually needed to use an antivirus on my PC in years, but i still have one running just in case.

I would guess a large part of iZotope's customers are not mastering engineers, likely a lot of Ozone users are actually producers making rough masters for demos or for mixing in to their live sets. If someone is in a rush to knock up a quick master of a new track to play out that night, a gate might turn out to be really useful to fix a previously unnoticed problem in the mix.

Again, just because its not something you use much, doesn't mean you won't need it one day.

Arrested Developer · Post by **Arrested Developer** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:45 am

mutantdog wrote: Again, just because its not something you use much, doesn't mean you won't need it one day.

Exactly.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:49 am

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Poll for Ozone Users above V5, regarding the gate being removed from the dynamics

Would you like Izotope to bring back the GATE to ozone's dynamics?