Tone2 will release Icarus - 3D WaveTable Synthesizer

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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:59 am

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Some of you have asked why it has been so quiet... During the last years we've been secretly working on Tone2 Icarus. It will be our masterpiece and the most powerful wavetable synthesizer on the market.
More details will be revealed soon.
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:02 am

More powerful than UVI Falcon (which has wavetable + a lot more!) and XFer Serum? - in that case I await the release with interest!
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:08 am

Will it sound like a Virus? :oops:

I'm definitely interested, cant wait to demo it or at least hear some sound clips.

I like the sound of Electra2 but its' tweakability has some strange restrictions, like one FX per layer, restricted control over unison, etc., hopefully this one will be better in this regard
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:25 am

It will be hard to beat Serum, looking forward to what Tone2 will come up with :tu:
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fluffy_little_something
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:30 am

Isn't their stuff always the bestestest, judging from their copy? :roll:

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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:31 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:Isn't their stuff always the bestestest, judging from their copy? :roll:
If you're just going to troll this thread because you don't like Tone 2 stuff how about just for once not? Okay?

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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:34 am

It is not about liking. It is not the first time they use the superlative for their plugins, they do it with every one of them, yet they rarely deliver. That is not to say their stuff is not good, but it is never the best/most powerful/any other superlative.

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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:45 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:It is not about liking. It is not the first time they use the superlative for their plugins, they do it with every one of them, yet they rarely deliver. That is not to say their stuff is not good, but it is never the best/most powerful/any other superlative.
Except that's all just a matter of opinion. And they're not the only company that hypes their products, or do I really have to show you all the glitzy sales copy all over the Internet?

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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:52 am

Well, if many opinions coincide, they become the standard ;)

Funny name for their new synth, do they know about Icarus' fate? 8)

The GUI seems to look pleasant, though.

recursive one
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:53 am

But no one else has a website stating that it is the "home of the best VST Plugins & AU Instruments" (however I would rather call it the home of the worst synth audio demos).

Still, while "best" is totally subjective, their plugins are not bad at all
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:57 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:It is not about liking. It is not the first time they use the superlative for their plugins, they do it with every one of them, yet they rarely deliver. That is not to say their stuff is not good, but it is never the best/most powerful/any other superlative.
They do us that marketing speil alright. But so do Melda and loads of others. Personally I ignore all that and just check out the plug.

On delivery that's a personal thing I guess. For me they delivered on Gladiator, Nemesis and Saurus. For some reason I couldn't get into Electra 2.

But I'm looking forward to this none the less. Will it beat Serum? I'm sure it will have more features and a decent work flow too. But for me Serum is my favorite Wave table Synth and it sounds fantastic.

Lets see how Icarus stacks up.
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:06 am

Guys, let's talk about the synthie itself instead of arguing about marketing slogans which mean a shit. Every synthesizer plugin in your folder is being marketed with silly slogans, buzzwords, and promises which don't stand up to themselves. Every single TV ad tells you that if you use the product advertised, you will feel like a king, and it's of the highest premium quality imaginable. So come on, a bit of realism please. If they advertised it in a way that you could give it a try, because it isn't that bad, it would hardly sell. Marketing is a major factor to catch people, and i wouldn't be surprised if it had the same major influence on the people complaining about the same kind of thing.

On topic, it looks cool really. Nice GUI. Hopefully it's real wavetable synthesis like the Waldorf synths do, and not the kind of morphing present in synths like Electra2, but i guess they wouldn't market it as a wavetable synth, if it wouldn't do that.
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Daags
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:09 am

what's a 3d wavetable ? or is OP just referring to the cgi rendering ?

chk071
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:14 am

Maybe it has a spectrum control like Nave. Looks like it on the screenshot. Also looks like you can import your own wavetables, as there seems to be a "MyWavetable" button. It also looked like they refrained from the typical "Tone2 weirdness" a bit, and offer a rather "classic" feature set, i don't see much "special" functionality on the GUI, which is a big plus for me, because i find it hard to get into Electra2 e.g., because there's so many things which it does differently, hence it becomes a bit cumbersome to operate it.

What i also hope is that they implement good wavetables. The waves in Electra2 are a bit lame IMO, really could be better.
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Post Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:17 am

I'm assuming a 3D wavetable means an array in which one can smoothly sweep in three directions. Zebra can already do this, since you have an arbitrary wavetable, plus two spectral FX to continuously morph, creating a conceptual cube with thousands of waveforms at each point in it's area, each waveform differing by it's neighbours only very slightly. But I'm interested in Tone2's take. I really enjoyed Rayblaster, Nemesis and a few others of theirs. Just ignore the marketing copy!
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