KVR Audio

SubliminalMessage · Post by **SubliminalMessage** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:50 am

Link: http://www.subliminalm.com/2016/02/4-is ... which.html

Aside from the masses of VSTs out there, there are a great number of commercial and freeware plugins emulating vintage equipment. This article addresses these types of VST plugins and their place in the modern Digital Audio Workstation..

Contents:
- Introduction
- Hardware vs Software
- Are Photo-real GUIs Inspiring or Gimmicks?
- Going deeper down the rabbit hole...
- Conclusion

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:29 am

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:59 am

Q: Is it worth using plugins which emulate vintage hardware?
A: It is totally up to you.

Mind blowing.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:07 am

IBTL

SubliminalMessage · Post by **SubliminalMessage** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:38 am

AnX wrote:Q: Is it worth using plugins which emulate vintage hardware?
A: It is totally up to you.

Mind blowing.

Yes, it is indeed mind blowing that some subjects are not 100% definitive in their conclusion.

Just wanted to add, this is a topic helping introduce people to the concept. A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:51 am

SubliminalMessage wrote:A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.

Yes and that people make music instead

Leave them alone

SubliminalMessage · Post by **SubliminalMessage** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:59 am

Zexila wrote:
SubliminalMessage wrote:A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.
Yes and that people make music instead Leave them alone

Well this is the 'getting started' section a forum for plugins, and are you not a musician posting on it?

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:11 am

SubliminalMessage wrote:
Zexila wrote:
SubliminalMessage wrote:A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.
Yes and that people make music instead Leave them alone
Well this is the 'getting started' section a forum for plugins, and are you not a musician posting on it?

That's for getting stuck phase in what emu is better and blind shootouts and endless debates of anything vs anything and all that jazz, no, I'm not musician, I care about production and tools more than music, once it was about the music, so why should they care, if it sounds good, it's awesome without knowing what it is, leave their naive world alone, I wish I never find out there were 3rd party plugins, I was actually making music.

But if they are here and reading all this, well, they are already infected and it's too late

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:50 am

Actually when I started learning music production, it was 2013 and everybody was raving about Diva, TAL synths, Slate console and tape thingies and other analog emulations, so I started to think that a plugin labelled as "analog emulation/curcuit modelled/super-sexy-vintage" should by default be preferable over a plugin not labelled as such. Looks silly, but it actually took me a while to realise that the specific sound character they produce mostly doesn't fit the music I'm making.

However I still use Diva, Monark and Satin here and there.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:01 am

SubliminalMessage wrote:A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.

And this is a crucial problem to their music production because.......?

SubliminalMessage · Post by **SubliminalMessage** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:03 am

recursive one wrote:Actually when I started learning music production, it was 2013 and everybody was raving about Diva, TAL synths, Slate console and tape thingies and other analog emulations, so I started to think that a plugin labelled as "analog emulation/curcuit modelled/super-sexy-vintage" should by default be preferable over a plugin not labelled as such. Looks silly, but it actually took me a while to realise that the specific sound character they produce mostly doesn't fit the music I'm making.

However I still use Diva, Monark and Satin here and there.

Thats pretty much what I wanted to address.. I use very few of these plugs, though Satin is still in my Favourites folder!

SubliminalMessage · Post by **SubliminalMessage** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:07 am

IncarnateX wrote:
SubliminalMessage wrote:A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.
And this is a crucial problem to their music production because.......?

Well, the entire article is about how it's not a crucial problem and that people shouldn't get bogged down with it if they don't want to. Give it a read

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:09 am

SubliminalMessage wrote:
Zexila wrote:
SubliminalMessage wrote:A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.
Yes and that people make music instead Leave them alone
Well this is the 'getting started' section a forum for plugins, and are you not a musician posting on it?

Yes, its the Getting Started section on this forum. A forum you've never bothered your arse being part of, it would appear.
And is this you now posting information about 'getting started? Here, as part of this forum, perhaps? No its not. Not even close; its basically a shill link to your own site, and this is basically just advertising.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:30 am

SubliminalMessage wrote:
IncarnateX wrote:
SubliminalMessage wrote:A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.
And this is a crucial problem to their music production because.......?
Well, the entire article is about how it's not a crucial problem and that people shouldn't get bogged down with it if they don't want to. Give it a read

So who has complained about it being a crucial problem then, since you need to eliminate it as such? Someone must be suffering by being unawere of what hardware their plug ins is emulating to need this information.

SubliminalMessage · Post by **SubliminalMessage** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:46 am

IncarnateX wrote:
SubliminalMessage wrote:
IncarnateX wrote:
SubliminalMessage wrote:A lot of people start off and are unaware of what such plugins are or are completely unaware of even the existence of the hardware they are emulating.
And this is a crucial problem to their music production because.......?
Well, the entire article is about how it's not a crucial problem and that people shouldn't get bogged down with it if they don't want to. Give it a read
So who has complained about it being a crucial problem then, since you need to eliminate it as such? Someone must be suffering by being unawere of what hardware their plug ins is emulating to need this information.

Not sure if you're on the windup or not, however I'll bite

no-one stated it's a crucial problem apart from yourself, nor that I wanted to eliminate anything. It's just an article discussing these types of plugins, nothing more or less.