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tavitooo · Post by **tavitooo** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:44 am

Hi I am New in this forum, I am from Peru, and I speak less English but ok. My question is:
Where I can Find instruments for make trip hop, styles portishead, Tricky, Sigur ros, The Third Eye foundation, etc...

Tank U

DJ Tavitooo

quincy · Post by **quincy** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:42 am

tavitooo wrote:Hi I am New in this forum, I am from Peru, and I speak less English but ok. My question is:
Where I can Find instruments for make trip hop, styles portishead, Tricky, Sigur ros, The Third Eye foundation, etc...

Tank U

DJ Tavitooo

Hi, welcome to KVR.

There are many questions like this "how can i make this type of music, whjat tools do i need". The best answer is that there are no specific things you need, just try different software until you get comfortable with something, then stick with that.

Do you already have a sequencer or a soft-studio, or are you going from scratch(nothing at all)??

peejunk · Post by **peejunk** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:23 am

I think trip-hop is more about samples and live instruments than synths and FX. It's mostly about cratedigging (finding old records and sampling them), and it's usually based on sampled hooks, then the music is organized around those.

You'd be best with some kind of a rompler with a lot of dusty samples, (USB Plugsound Free has great dusty rhodes as well as some other cool samples so I suggest you d/l that).

Another freebie is Izotope Vinyl that will help you do some lo-fi damage to your own sounds (so you won't have to cut acetates of your own playing like Portishead did

). I said it's not about synths, but I wasn't totally right. A lot of sounds are synthetic but you will need to learn how to program them for those performance/rock patches because most presets on them are concentrated at ambient and dance music. Any synth will do but mostly analogue ones are used (so you'd be best with VA synths, still there are too many synths and I don't really have any preferences). Getting them thru amp effects like Green Machine will also be great.

Find some nice tube effects (Tube Limit by TbT is one of the best), you could also use a wah like DSound DS-AW1.

http://www.djbb.dk has a great collection of samples that could be turned into nice trip-hop IMO.

I hope I was of some help.

jens · Post by **jens** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:40 am

Trip-Hop is NOT about sticking to formulas - I'm doing some sort of Trip-Hop at times and I never sampled any record (the only samples I use are convetional drum- and percussion-samples )

You can use virtually everything to make Trip-Hop

edit: here
is a recent example of a Trip-Hop tune plus a short discussion about Trip-Hop

peejunk · Post by **peejunk** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:46 am

Dunno really. To me trip-hop is highly hip-hop influenced dance-like music, with a lot of hip-hop's cratedigging aesthetics mixed with a dance-like engeneering approach to writing music. So no real cratedigging uis required, but having athmosphere of old funk records, dust and wax with a downtempo electronic music is kind of what makes trip hop for me.

So Lamb are a lot of things, and trip-hop among those things. So are early Moloko.

Strict trip-hop (to me) is Massive Attack, Tricky, Portishead, Nightmares on Wax, Sofa Surfers, early UNKLE, early Kruder and Dorfmeister, and things like that.

The brorader genre that captures anything from acid jazz to slow ambient breakbeats is "downtempo", well in my books at least.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:51 am

all free and available somewhere here just google the buggers

but

vb1
do not laugh free bass synth for nice fat sounding portishead type basslines
krakli.co.uk pick up richman and morphiza to cover some nice organs sounds

pads in the shape of crystal

then dig around for drums here n there your sorted

Pav · Post by **Pav** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:10 am

I play around with drums a lot when composing trip-hop:distortion, filters. I recon there aren't specific instrumnts for it.....i do use effects presets a lot though with different synths

autloc · Post by **autloc** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:13 am

i've been pretty impressed with what monologue has to offer in terms of bass and leads -- it can get pretty gritty as a lead, and it can be nicely subtle as a bass (well, when that's what i want). of course that's not going to do you much good unless you have cubase sx 2.

VanLichten · Post by **VanLichten** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:17 pm

I would considering investing in a good universal synth with a beautiful basic tone like RGC Audios Pentagon, Bigticks Rhino or Mothership from Nusofting - nasty sounds arent trademarks of all these projects normally.
For the free ones, follow Vurts instructions

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luCiPHer · Post by **luCiPHer** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:47 pm

hmm, i've never used old record samples for my stuff

what is trip hop...
usally a mix of electronic and organic sounds, lots of pads and electronic beats, electric bass, strings, piano/rhodes and all kinds of mutated soundsources..

for the drums: do not try to find a step-sequencer for drums, not enough room for slow, complex beats.

get some kind of rhodes, mda's e-piano, or go the money route and buy applied accoustics lounge lizard 2.

spectrasonics trilogy is great for basses of all kinds.

get a good VA-synth, or some more...

and some amp-simulations, simulanalog stuff is great and free

wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:26 pm

i set up a sparse open framework with drums and e-piano and build from there

drums -- any reasonable drum sampler for 'real' drums -- i like FLStrudio for somewhat processed real drumlines -- AND still learning and appreciating microTonic for synthetic sounds and beats

some nice e-pianos from multi-purpose vsts
i like the fm7 e-pianos per Bear Naohm presets
and/or rhino per Daniel

and Tera is also very good at wide range of e-piano sounds

baggio · Post by **baggio** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:39 pm

I would say that M-Tron is a very good instrument to get if you are going for the portishead type of vibe.

Also, some sort of bit-reducer is good for drums etc.

wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:42 pm

addendum
now that i have Komplete, I've been relying more an dmore on Intakt and Reaktor sequencers for chilled complex rhythms

SecondSkin · Post by **SecondSkin** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:47 am

There are alot of soundfonts that you will find useful for making trip-hop. Download SFZ (free) from rgc audio to play the soundfonts, then download the +Hip Hop Combo, +Pop Combo, +String Combo (all free at SF2Midi.com). Next head to soundfont.com and purchase the planet phatt soundfont banks -- for $15 it is an ESSENTIAL purchase for making trip-hop. Honestly, that and a few dirty effects (mda effects pack, izotope vinyl) will be most of what you would need.

wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:29 pm

what about delays vs. reverb for fx?

i go with delays -- lightly swirling open spacey tempo-synced delays on higher end percussion and tinkly bell e-piano or heavier dub-like on bass. i use more feedback machine -- it's not free, but cheap for all the wonders its capable of.

some like the free retro delay

Trip Hop