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tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:38 pm

It started out just fine. A folder called "drums" for drums, Where every kit had it's own sub-folder (and if there were variations, every group of variations had it's sub-subfolder).
Then I created a folder called "New" for new, as yet unsorted, samples. That's when things started to go wrong.
Now, inside the folder called "New", there are folders with names like "newer", "temp", "temp2" &c.
Oh, well, usually I can find what I'm looking for.

Groet, Erik

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:51 pm

I group my samples as ones Iv made, ones Iv sampled which are illegal (ie from records) and ones that iv sampled which are legal (from sample CD's and romplers etc). I then group them by type ie different drums, fx, textures. I then back them up on a Firewire drive, just incase my comp goes the way of the pear (which seems to happen all to often).

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:28 am

but isn't anybody using any paticular apps to do the job???
this sample crap is killing me. I need something to organize all this

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:14 am

hehe.. if only it could be that easy.

You have to be organized. No one can do that for you

I am "somewhat" organized. I do have many categories and sub categories of sounds, but I also have a "to be sorted" folder with many many more sounds..

Sometimes I spend a few hours here and there, when I am not feeling inspired to make music, and I sort through the sounds...

A program that you may find helpful is Samplecatalog, but it still won't organize everything for you...

http://www.geocities.com/samplecatalog/

I use it sometimes to look for samples, instead of the FL Studio browser..

You can search sounds, which can come in handy..

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:04 am

does that one allow you to audition the samples when you find them?

pricer · Post by **pricer** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:36 pm

i follow the same system as Reason only unpacked obviously (I'd love to have all my sounds in one Reason Refill, but due to endless reasons that's not really feasable). As for drums, I've had them organised in totally different ways over the years, but having established kits in a 'drum kit' folder, while having any loose stuff in a 'drum hit' folder, with subfolders for each drum seems to work the best, if I were more organised I would settle down on a format (probably Redrum) and have everything in the 'Drum Hit' format, with the Redrum file format effectively being my Drum Kit folder for me.

Personally I think it all depends on what software you use the most and the way it organises it for you. One problem that is rising for me personally is loops, as I could easily rip them to REX file and also play the REX file as a drum kit inside Redrum or NNXT, but that means a lot of work and creates a compromise in that not all the drums are in the drum kit folder.

...this could go on for a long time.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:38 pm

i have a folder called samples
inside this i have three folders

instruments
mangled
stuff for mangling

altogether this is 6gig

i think i need a trim

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:46 am

right now I have a folder called
soundbanks then
keys drums bas guitar strings djtools soundfx

and then so on and so on whatever the instruemts are going into these folders, but still this isn't good enough.
I also have a sample library folder for samples that don't fall into the catagory of instruments, like cartoons, political, porno, blah blah but I want something better for organizing and auditioning

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:08 am

stale bread wrote:right now I have a folder called
soundbanks then
keys drums bas guitar strings djtools soundfx

and then so on and so on whatever the instruemts are going into these folders, but still this isn't good enough.
I also have a sample library folder for samples that don't fall into the catagory of instruments, like cartoons, political, porno, blah blah but I want something better for organizing and auditioning

PORNO samples?!

hook me up with a link man!!

lesbians only please, I cringe hearing guys

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:35 am

Hi

You wanna see my folder(s)!

The problem with HUGE multi gig collections (or even smaller ones for that matter) is if you ever try to alter or downsize; you had better be sure your not moving or deleting a loop that you used in a song or you could destroy the whole vibe!

In an ideal world - when you consider how versatile soft samplers and beatmanglers are you probably wouldn't need too much samples - but its the age old problem of hoarding again!

I tend to organize in a couple of ways - if you have a sample cd of lets say single hit drum samples you almost certainly will only need some of that content - so I will trawl through the cd and store what I think I will use from that Cd into a named (after the sample CD) folder.

If it is a Multi-instrument CD (which will be used in a sample playback module - in my case Halion)- I will do put it into a named folder IE Bass Guitar Multi - and then place that folder into my HALION folder.

If you think you will be accumilating lots of samples then start thinking in terms of a hierarchical system of organization - but try not to end up with so many folders that it takes half a dozen clicks to get to a sample!

I have several MAIN folders - Loops, Hits, Halion, Akai Library ECT.

So even in a multi gig folder of lets say AKAI samples (My biggest Folder) you will have the following folder order - Akai Sample Pool > Akai Multis (or AKAI MPC or AKAI Cube or AKAI Loops) > Akai Multi 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 > The last set of folders > Rock Kit,Ambient Kit, Reggae Kit ECT point to samples.

The above is the worst case scenario (thank goodness)
- I also have some Massive Loop Folders which will simply be - Sample Pool > Loops > Ambient Loops > Viola hundereds of Wave Loops!

If you get over organized (some might say I am - I think I have a system that keeps things in folders that give a good idea of where to go for a specific sample - without having to generally go further than three or four sub-folders - but hey thats a self assessment!) you will probably get so bogged down that it might cause a cognitive disorder or even a paranoid episode - so my advice is to get something orderly together NOW - because once you start making tunes, you do not THEN want to start re-organizing your samples - as stated earlier - you will then have to remember and trawl through your library to find some obscure ZAP sample that you unfortunately deleted six weeks ago!

Sorry for the rant - being an EX AKAI samplist does make this subject just a little emotive!

Flipper.

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:49 pm

Take your time when you haven't anything else to do. Get a huge cup of tea. Then sort everything at once.
I inspired my order by the "Tracker's Handbook". It looks like this:

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d:\musikmachen
			\docs			:related documentation
			\energyXT
			\samples
					\bass	:bass pick samples
					\breaks :drum breakbeats, sorted by bpm
					\drumkit
							\kick
							\snare
							\cymbal
							etc...
					\hits	:scratches, bats, etc.
					\pads	:strings, juno, etc.
					\record	:stuff i record spontaneously
					\synth	:samples of old unavailable synthesizers
			\soundfonts	:emulation of real-existing instruments
			\tools	:recycle, audacity, hammerhead
			\tracks	:finished WAVs, but also sleeve notes and tracks that i'm working on
			\vst
				\effect
				\instrument

basically, that's it.
If something doesn't fit your order, delete it. Delete the content of your "record" folder after you mastered the song. You won't be able to edit it later, though.

putte · Post by **putte** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:25 pm

iTunes is good for organising samples.
(just create folders with "drums", "bass" etc. and put your sounds in there while the sounds themselves wont bbe moved.)

putte

bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:41 pm

vurt wrote: altogether this is 6gig i think i need a trim

pfft!
is that all?

I started trying to put everything on one 20 gig partition and have quickly run out.

I try to keep things as well organized as I can by giving names,
but when getting to the mangled stuff..well it's gets harder to fit descriptions.
one folder named death machine gurgles..

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:50 pm

I have 3 different sample drives.

1 is just Creamware and Giga samples (80 gig)on my synth machine.

1 is just wave and Kontakt Samples (120 gig USB 2) on my laptop

and the other is another 120 gig on my DAW for any other samples that I use (soundfonts, ripped samples, other formats etc).

I generally just label them with the titles from where they came from.

That's all.

sample organisation