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tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:32 pm

Hey,
Just curious to know where you guys look for your sound sources. I tend to create original hits using samples from records or sample CDs, and construct these into breaks for further processing / editing. Any of you fella's record your own drums? Or maybe you're a vintage vinyl junkie? Anyone into any specific drum machines / synths for the job?

atomic_(no)afro · Post by **atomic_(no)afro** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:43 pm

I have no set method for making my breaks. Sometimes I use drum synthesis techniques on attack or a VA plug. Other times I take samples from CDs or vinyl for a beat. I have this killer LP called "Ultra Drums" which are these killer electronic drum breaks for 1980's producers. Very New Wave/Electro.

You can even use field recordings or misc samples to make drum sounds given proper editing. FLStudio is great for making drums more punchy by using their sampler editing features.

ATA

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:39 pm

Cheers fella, I'll give that lp a check, sounds interesting. Im pretty much satisfied with the results I get, but Im always interested to hear how other people work. When ever i listen to modern breaks type tracks Im constantly left pondering over the source material of the beats. I guess Im just been a nosey f**ker!

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:53 pm

Hey, I just draw from my large library of singel hit drums when I want to arrange a basic beat.
For the backbeats I usually rearange loops or take the best from cool loops and
put it together into a new groove.
Something I don´t do that much right now is the common stutter edit, mainly because it´s a bit boring if not done properly and also, I have yet to discover an efficiant way of doing this whitout having to manualy put in slices at a grid resulution of 196.

However, if used in a break as a fill or similar, a simple stutter or fast(ish) sequenced hit is cool.

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:13 pm

Yeh, I tend to steer clear of the stutter edits too. When ever i do that stuff i just end up sound like f**king BT's nan! I prefer to construct my beats from audio so Im quite used to making thousands of little cuts and edits, but the stutter thing aint for me.

Where do you source your stuff from Mindless? You say you have a huge collection of single hits, are they recorded from scratch, sampled, synthesis... or all of the above?

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:20 pm

favourite trick at the minute is to extract the MIDI from a found loop using pHATpro or the fruity beatslicer and apply totally inappropriate samples and hits to it before re-editing

slainte

rob

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:21 pm

tee boy wrote:
Where do you source your stuff from Mindless? You say you have a huge collection of single hits, are they recorded from scratch, sampled, synthesis... or all of the above?

Never said huge, but I do have a large library of drums. Main portion of it comes from my sample CD collection. All in all, I have about 13.000 audio files on my puter right now.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:23 pm

pHz wrote:favourite trick at the minute is to extract the MIDI from a found loop using pHATpro or the fruity beatslicer and apply totally inappropriate samples and hits to it before re-editing

slainte rob

I use Phatmatic Pro all the time, any other cool tricks you do?

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:28 pm

another simple (but pretty effective) one is to make a mangled version or 2 or 3 or 4 of a 'straight' break and then play with delaying / filtering / phasing / etc and layering these against the original ...

... that way you get the funky groove of the original break AND some stuttery glitchy wierdie goodness

slainte

rob

Adam_V · Post by **Adam_V** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:28 pm

90% of the time I use sampled drums, either single hits or chopped up loops (ie, I always program beats myself). Usually get my source material from online, or off of vinyl or cds, then re-process. I'll probably start exploring synthesized drums more, as my direction seems to be getting a little more abstract and blippy.

With regard to stutter edits, I've always found them pretty easy to do. They get interesting when you start combining them with effects, and utilizing them in unexpected locations. They can also be done with vocals and all kinds of synth sounds too. I guess the important thing, if you're going to utilize that sort of thing, is to do it tactfully as many people seem to get a little overzealous with it.

Markleford · Post by **Markleford** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:35 pm

mindless wrote:I use Phatmatic Pro all the time, any other cool tricks you do?

Enable the 'select slice by midi note' feature, grab a knob, and start twisting it crazily: now you're editing/randomizing that parameter in real-time!

Good for filter freq, pan, pitch, etc.

And I play breakbeats on my drumkit, but have no mikes for it...

- m

atomic_(no)afro · Post by **atomic_(no)afro** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:48 pm

Anyone here listen to Tipper, Buckfunk 3000/Si Begg, or Cold Fusion Mafia (basically anything off Fuel)? The dopest beats bar none.

ATA

Adam_V · Post by **Adam_V** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:00 pm

atomic_afro wrote:Anyone here listen to Tipper, Buckfunk 3000/Si Begg, or Cold Fusion Mafia (basically anything off Fuel)? The dopest beats bar none.

ATA

Yup. Been spinning breaks for four years, writing just over a year. The first track that ever got me into breaks was Leftfield feat. Roots Manuva - Dusted (Buckfunk 3000 mix). It's classic Si Beggy goodness. I've got a decent amount of the Fuel catalogue on wax too.

bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:11 pm

edit -
I rtfm and answered my own question.

Rozzer · Post by **Rozzer** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:25 pm

atomic_afro wrote:Anyone here listen to Tipper, Buckfunk 3000/Si Begg, or Cold Fusion Mafia (basically anything off Fuel)? The dopest beats bar none.

ATA

All of the above

Yummy breaks goodness!

Any break beat artists?