KVR Audio

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:04 pm

If wanting to change DAW, which DAW is most allround versatile when a users wants to import projects, settings from another DAW

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:45 pm

Probably DAWs that support AAF and OMF.

If you search there should be supportive 3rd party tools for transferring from one to another.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:48 pm

Studio One has various import options for other DAW formats, afaik. But taking over settings? How should that work when the DAW works differently.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:49 pm

There's also this.... http://www.aatranslator.com.au/

But it seems it is Windows only (with a mention that it should run under Wine for Mac and Linux)

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:49 pm

Hmmm, Bitwig, Reason, FL Studio, Live AWOL from the list?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Medi ... nterchange

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:54 pm

chk071 wrote:Studio One has various import options for other DAW formats, afaik. But taking over settings? How should that work when the DAW works differently.

While I haven't worked with migrating between DAW (outside of stems), I used to export from video editing software to Reaper with OMF. There are very basic (but highly useful) things it does import such as separate tracks for all audio, correct placement of audio clips, truncated audio clips as relevant (so it references the full audio file, despite only using the cropped clip/non-hard edit) within the timeline, volume levels, and panning.

I might be forgetting a few things that it includes but those basics are incredibly useful.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:54 pm

Numanoid wrote:Hmmm, Bitwig, Reason, FL Studio, Live AWOL from the list?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Medi ... nterchange

Sadly yes.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:16 pm

chk071 wrote:Studio One has various import options for other DAW formats, afaik. But taking over settings? How should that work when the DAW works differently.

In order for consumers to want to change DAW the switch needs to be as hassle free as possible.

I am amazed that DAW makers don't focus more on this, the market is very much saturated so they can't trust newbie customers not having owned a DAW before to continually come along, but focus more on "stealing" customers who already are using (other) DAWs

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:21 pm

Er... unless there's some absolutely monopoly industry standard, I'd rather concentrate on my own vision, and my own formats, if I made a DAW. Doing everything to make a switch from other products as easy as possible seems a bit counter productive, and a waste of resources.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:37 pm

chk071 wrote:Er... unless there's some absolutely monopoly industry standard, I'd rather concentrate on my own vision, and my own formats, if I made a DAW. Doing everything to make a switch from other products as easy as possible seems a bit counter productive, and a waste of resources.

Not if you have to work with other people, which most of us folks that make $$ doing this have to.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:43 pm

I figure that's why Cubase supports that Open Media format. But, frankly, with so many DAW's on the market, which have quuite different approaches too, it's no wonder that they aren't, and can't be compatible to everything. How should Reason be compatible to Cubase in another way than the Rewire crook? They don't even speak the same language (VST).

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:07 pm

chk071 wrote:I figure that's why Cubase supports that Open Media format. But, frankly, with so many DAW's on the market, which have quuite different approaches too, it's no wonder that they aren't, and can't be compatible to everything. How should Reason be compatible to Cubase in another way than the Rewire crook? They don't even speak the same language (VST).

They don't have to be an exact replica (workflow/OS/DAW specific tools)... but being able to support basic settings and correctly referencing source files (audio/midi) within a timeline is very useful.

A user can add VST/AU/AAX etc... as needed to the DAW they've imported to.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:13 pm

I wouldn't have anything against it. It's just that i understand why a company with potentially limited manpower decides to focus on other things than cross compatibility with other, possibly competing software.

Winstontaneous · Post by **Winstontaneous** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:42 pm

Numanoid wrote:Hmmm, Bitwig, Reason, FL Studio, Live AWOL from the list?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Medi ... nterchange

Looks like those DAWs supporting OMF are more "pro"/ post-production oriented; the ones you mention have a more "creative" focus.

For the work I've done with video, OMF and EDL (Edit Decision Lists) are crucial. As an intern I had to re-create ten five-minute videos from scratch for a DVD release because no EDL was available. A great learning experience, and a massive PITA!

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:08 pm

They are more "pro" focused hosts, but there is a growing community of Live users, using it for video.

I'm really hoping they add support for OMF (import/export from Arrangement view) in the future.

Which DAW is easiest to migrate to?